Parris featurette on bbc

[narl]

Seen this earlier on, i like how the jet black ebony has been trotted out to show some splice work The reality is unless you buy an ultimate its more likely to be brownish.

[thai_son22]

its a nice little feature. always love watching these kinds of things

[narl]

I just wonder what they do with these cues once they're made, is it raffled or something? I remember a lot of years ago they ran a competition to win it on the BBC, and it turned up here many years later.

[ADR147]

25% of the cues still in this competition at the time!

[narl]

25% of the cues still in this competition at the time!

True, a classic owned by Hawkins, or "awkins" if you're Willie Thorne. 2 Stamford's though.

[jrc750]

I just wonder what they do with these cues once they're made, is it raffled or something? I remember a lot of years ago they ran a competition to win it on the BBC, and it turned up here many years later.

On World snooker site it says getting auctioned off for charity, face value £1200 apparently so assume it must be Ultimate standard

[cueman]

its a nice little feature. always love watching these kinds of things

Yes it's great for viewers who don't realise what a lot of work goes into making cues. I like the other feature where they show the table being set up, and how the cloth was made.

[ghost121]

The BBC are only happy when they are trotting out cliches. No depth whatsoever, just the same old nonsense year in year out from a bunch of has-been lovies. And the fact that most pros think Parris makes the best snooker cues just shows how ignorant they are concerning the equipment they use.

[cueman]

The BBC are only happy when they are trotting out cliches. No depth whatsoever, just the same old nonsense year in year out from a bunch of has-been lovies. And the fact that most pros think Parris makes the best snooker cues just shows how ignorant they are concerning the equipment they use.

Its always the same regardless of the sport. The biggest names are always trotted out because everyone is aware of them. Parris has earned his reputation by having so many pros use his cues so we just have to take it for what it is. It was just a little insight into how cues are made, I think most viewers don't care of the name, its only real cue enthusiasts that seem to have a problem with JP. He always seems to get slagged on here for some reason, that reason being jealousy plain and simple.

[ghost121]

Jealousy has nothing to do with it. It's about accurate representation. Parris is a salesman not a cue maker. He leaves that part to his teenagers.

[thai_son22]

Jealousy has nothing to do with it. It's about accurate representation. Parris is a salesman not a cue maker. He leaves that part to his teenagers.

I wouldn't go as far and say he isn't a cue maker. Neither would I say he's a salesman. After all it's his company. I don't think your statements are an accurate representation either.

I've never had him as a salesman persuading you to buy his gear. People generally are after something and he'd offer advice. And well, he got this way from making cues in the beginning so why not.

[cueman]

Jealousy has nothing to do with it. It's about accurate representation. Parris is a salesman not a cue maker. He leaves that part to his teenagers.

What is accurate representation exactly?

Parris has been a cue maker and is still involved in the cue making process, sales and advice is just as important a part as the labour intensive jobs of planing down shafts or putting ferrules on and fitting joints.

And whilst talking about accurate representation, he doesn't have any teenagers working for him, that is yet another lie that gets used to try and discredit his business as though its full of kids making crap cues you get from argos. You have just proved that like many others you are anti Parris, I just don't understand why so many have criticisms of him.

[thai_son22]

What is accurate representation exactly?

Parris has been a cue maker and is still involved in the cue making process, sales and advice is just as important a part as the labour intensive jobs of planing down shafts or putting ferrules on and fitting joints.

And whilst talking about accurate representation, he doesn't have any teenagers working for him, that is yet another lie that gets used to try and discredit his business as though its full of kids making crap cues you get from argos. You have just proved that like many others you are anti Parris, I just don't understand why so many have criticisms of him.

Agree with this entirely. I think there is a fine line though to be careful not to label anyone who doesn't like his cues to be anti-parris. Not for one minute suggesting that you are.

But yes I'd be the first to say that I've seen some his cues and I don't like them but I also have an order with him at present and well whilst he may not be my first choice, I will rather go to him because I know where I can find him and I can always communicate with him if needed.

[ghost121]

I'm not anti Parris. The Parris workshop turns out many fine cues. And I know John has made cues himself in the past from scratch, I have owned some of the early ones myself. What I am anti is his reputation as a current hands-on cue maker who is the best in the business. And okay, teenagers may be an overstatement, but his workshop is not exactly crammed with experience. Buy a cue from Parris and you do not know who has had a hand in it. The pros get a different product and he will make as many cues available to them until they are happy, so that caveat is not representative of the general product and therefore should not be used to define his reputation or status. Having said that, I respect other opinions different to mine. That's the way of things. I just get fed up with the cliche 'Parris is the best in the business, etc...'

[thai_son22]

How do you know his workshop isn't crammed with experience?