Parris delivery times = mental

[narl]

The latest delivery times from their site:

Parris Collection Cues 22-30 weeks for 16” 3/4 cues and 12-18 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” joint butt cues
American Pool Cues 30-40 weeks
Limited Edition Cues 30-40 weeks
Special Cues 24-32 weeks for 16” 3/4 cues and 16-24 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” butt joint cues
Paragon Cues 24-32 weeks for 16” 3/4 cues and 16-24 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” butt joint cues
Ultimate Cues 12-18 months for 16” 3/4 cues and approximately 60 months for 1pc, 2pc and 12” butt joint cues

Special cues are at the point where ultimates were in the early 2000's back for one pieces. Anyone tried the cue-builder lately? As soon as you select one piece (regardless of it being special, paragon or ultimate) it automatically slaps £120 onto the price. Yet standard 3/4 has no additional charge.

Mad how things are going with cue prices these days.

[cueman]

It's been like that for about 18 months now. As the demand for 1pc cues grows due to the majority of top players using them, so finding quality shafts gets harder.

Many cue makers in the UK say how hard it's getting to find good ash boards that not only have the right feel and density but also grain pattern and free from blemishes.

They go through a lot of man hours and wastage to find the right wood and it's obvious that this now is coming with a premium price tag attached. Given that most the players winning all the events recently use parris cues he's a victim of his own and their success as the demand increases.

[narl]

It's been like that for about 18 months now. As the demand for 1pc cues grows due to the majority of top players using them, so finding quality shafts gets harder.

Many cue makers in the UK say how hard it's getting to find good ash boards that not only have the right feel and density but also grain pattern and free from blemishes.

They go through a lot of man hours and wastage to find the right wood and it's obvious that this now is coming with a premium price tag attached. Given that most the players winning all the events recently use parris cues he's a victim of his own and their success as the demand increases.

True but the initial surge for parris cues for a time seemed constrained to ultimates. Never realised this shortage of shafts was affecting basically the entire range. 1 piece cues with a price premium over what most would already consider nutty prices.

[FMeister]

They not only have back orders, but it's a job and a half keeping the shop stocked up, as apparantly their cues are literally flying out!!! The increase in demand is quite simply outweighing the supply!!!

[jrc750]

Lots of very poor looking shafts getting rushed out to satisfy that demand tho!

[thai_son22]

Not being funny though, his situation is how you'd want it where his demand out does his supply. Lol

[FMeister]

Yeah Lol, you gotta envy him somewhat if you’re in the business of cues

Not being funny though, his situation is how you'd want it where his demand out does his supply. Lol

[FMeister]

In my experience, although I am immediately drawn towards the look of a cue, let’s face it we all are, there have been a few Parris Cues not quite appealing to the eyes, that I have played with by chance, I have played the best snooker of my life. So what happened, let’s just say if you’re happy with something don’t go around tweaking it in the hope that the outcome will always be better.... feeling depressed now

Lots of very poor looking shafts getting rushed out to satisfy that demand tho!

[vmax]

The latest delivery times from their site:



Special cues are at the point where ultimates were in the early 2000's back for one pieces. Anyone tried the cue-builder lately? As soon as you select one piece (regardless of it being special, paragon or ultimate) it automatically slaps £120 onto the price. Yet standard 3/4 has no additional charge.

Mad how things are going with cue prices these days.

Those that are jointed just above the butt splices like Mark Williams' are one pieces that have been cut and jointed, otherwise the hardwood butt is turned on a lathe so can be made very quickly cutting time and labour, and as they are solid hardwood sometimes it negates the need for fitting a weight, again a time consuming process.

There's going to be a shortage of english ash because of ash dieback disease, but siberian or canadian is plentiful enough and percentage wise better quality as it's slower growing due to the colder climate, so tighter grain.

I think Parris has taken on too much work, the delivery times are ridiculous, five years for a one piece Ultimate and surely what they're using in the meantime they're gelling with so it's no wonder that when they get them they don't like them that much and sell them on.

Too many think it's the cue that does the work and if they have a Parris they can play like a pro, the pros were good before they used a Parris, they don't get them for free but they don't have to wait for theirs.
Just imagine the new Parris that some pro gets was actually yours but he tried it, liked it, so it was sold to him and you have to wait a little bit longer, and then another pro comes along.......

[guernseygooner]

People who order multiple Ultimates with the intention of selling for profit as soon as they get them.

The workshop still able to churn out the Unique range as well as the other ranges for shop stock even though the online waiting times are so long.

People who live close by who constantly purchase the decent stock cues to sell on for profit.

All this while he lets it happen adds to the online waiting times.

[rdsalt]

Yes, I bet there are people who order 3 ultimate's at a time, selling 2 at a profit so basically getting your own cue free. With ultra low bank interest rates and the risk with shares it's a wise investment and percentage wise it's a great return for a 5 year wait. Spoils it for the normal customers who just want a playing cue though.

[cueman]

The good thing I guess is it shows the game is in a very healthy state again. Not quite as popular as the 80's boom but the game is really getting popular and I'm seeing a lot of clubs getting busy again and waiting times for tables which was unheard of only a few years ago.

Even the thai cue makers are struggling to keep up with demand too as orders from around the world from Brazil to India, China and the UK, its a great time to be a cue maker.

[anish147]

Yes, I bet there are people who order 3 ultimate's at a time, selling 2 at a profit so basically getting your own cue free. With ultra low bank interest rates and the risk with shares it's a wise investment and percentage wise it's a great return for a 5 year wait. Spoils it for the normal customers who just want a playing cue though.

I suppose the risk is that the game may not be so popular in 5 years time - you cannot predict the strength of the re-sale market in 5 years.

[fkhan]

It is simply not worth your time and money when the quality is a gamble. Also, far better quality cues are available at a fraction of those prices without the insane waiting time too.

[arsalanjami]

Do they have ultimates at the store?