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  • #61
    wity, thats what my other half says to me everyday

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    • #62
      am thinking of getting a 3/4 joint in a one piece cue, anyone got experience of this, does it have the same feel?
      heard ronnies cue (the burwat) became unuseable or he didnt like it when he converted it

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      • #63
        It can affect the balance of the cue if you put a joint in it, as it was made to be balanced at a certain point when one iece so the joint would throw the balance off and maybe affect the feel of the cue.

        Hope its not the cue we were just talking about mate
        Rocket Ronnie Rules!!!

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        • #64
          Originally Posted by mattyshinobi22
          am thinking of getting a 3/4 joint in a one piece cue, anyone got experience of this, does it have the same feel?
          heard ronnies cue (the burwat) became unuseable or he didnt like it when he converted it
          i have just had my 1 piece cue converted to a 3/4, with the joint 1" above the splices. i had the work done by Robert Osborne and i prefer the cue now. it is slightly more heavier (joint weight about 1 1/2oz). but as my cue was only about 15 1/2 oz it is a better weight for me.
          obviously if you get your cue converted it will weigh more regardless of what joint you get, however if you get the joint put in at, or near the balance point it should not affect the playing quality of the cue, just make it a bit heavier. hope this helps.
          "Don't think, feel"

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          • #65
            Originally Posted by craigslater
            It can affect the balance of the cue if you put a joint in it, as it was made to be balanced at a certain point when one iece so the joint would throw the balance off and maybe affect the feel of the cue.

            Hope its not the cue we were just talking about mate
            na bud,
            got another one piece cue and just wanted to know if it affects feel of the cue, as i am getting some funney looks when carting it on public transport

            gonna ave to learn to drive

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            • #66
              Hi,

              I've got a John Parris Ambassador, had it for 10 years or so now, love it to bits...

              The joint started moving / twisting in the shaft and rather than post it back to Parris I took it to Craftsmans near Leeds as I live pretty close.

              Dave at Craftsman put a craftmans joint in it and I've not had any problems with it since. I don't think Dave thinks very highly of the joints that Parris uses (used?). He seemed a bit fed up of fixing parris joints asking me why I didn't take it back to Parris. His argument was if nobody tells him or he's unaware thats his joints have problem he'll never fix it. So, I got craftsman to fix it and e-mailed Parris. Parris offered to fix it free of charge but I didn't want to risk mailing my cue to him.

              Brother has a Parris too, exactly the same problem, took it Craftmans who repaired it leaving the original Parris joint in place. He's not had any problems with it since.

              What can you draw from this? bad joints or simply not put together too well?

              I'm not having a go at Parris, I'm a big fan of his cues.....

              Mark

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              • #67
                i have never been a big fan of his joints and his cues dont seem to be the standard they were a few years ago, however i love Osborne joints and some others dont. so its a personal thing but never heard of an osborne joint go wrong! Craftsman cues and joints are of top quality. i love their work. Best value for money anywhere. but if price is not an option i would always use Robert.
                "Don't think, feel"

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                • #68
                  Never seen a Robert Osbourne cue myself, don't see any in this area.
                  Does he actuallly make the cues himself?

                  That could explian them been less common than other cues.

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                  • #69
                    Yeah, I've not seen any recent examples from Parris but I've heard the same story about quality of timber etc.

                    I was lucky I got my parris 10 or so years ago...

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                    • #70
                      in years past the parris joint was smooth to the wood so once the glue broke down it moved i believe they are all threaded now.
                      https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                      • #71
                        Ive noticed on the 3 examples of joints ive seen all had one half heavier than the other (albeit only slightly). This is something i would want to take into account when thinking about where to place the joint (personally i would want the heavier half butt side, to avoid not so much having too forward-a-balance, as having a good distribution of weight along the cue)

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                        • #72
                          Qubit

                          I had never looked at it like before, so I just put them on the scales and they both came out at 28 grams

                          Paul

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                          • #73
                            The bottom line is that it would make no discernable difference anyway to how a cue would perform, if the joint were fitted male or female side either way up.

                            Once a cue is screwed together the mass of the joint would be concentrated in the same spot, and, even if there were a bias to one side or the other, it would be so slight that I'd personally defy anyone on the face of the planet to recognise which way about they were by using the cue alone.

                            Far too many other factors are, or could be involved in affecting the cues performance to enable the way a joint faces to have any significant impact on the playability of any give cue.

                            It's just not something anyone should be overly concerned about.

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                            • #74
                              i agree 100% Trev.
                              "Don't think, feel"

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                              • #75
                                Hi all,

                                I've got a "cheap" (£5'er off from a guy from the local market 5 years ago) 3/4 jointed cue, and Saturday night the front thread decided to shear off.

                                I know from previous posts, having this done professionally will be about £30/40 - far in excess of the worth of the cue iteself.

                                Even though I'm leaning towards buying a new decent cue from the likes of craftmans, it seems a shame to let this cue go as I've managed to make nice mid-forties breaks with it.

                                I've read most of the posts on this thread, and am curious if it's possible to buy any of the different kinds of joints mentioned here, as a non-cuemaker ?

                                If so, where from ?

                                I'm based in coventry in the west midlands.

                                As far as I can see, I'll need to drill out the remaining brass thread thats locked-in. Then work out what size thread/hole is needed to cater for the new thread.

                                I am just curious if I can make the cue live again, and wouldn't contemplate doing this with any other cue I've got.

                                Many thanks in advance.

                                Ian

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