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hi, may i know where doe's this cues made from? is it from china or england? many thanks..
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This looks like a patent for the acuerate cue. Seems fair enough to me, although I wouldn't have expected a lighter and more flexible shaft near to the tip of the cue would have a great effect. They obviously worked hard to prove it:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/200...er&stemming=on
Things look to have progressed even further now that Aramith have employed the Acuerate technology into the pool cue shaft with the Phenoflex core:
http://www.aramithacueratecues.com/i...d=13&Itemid=43
It must be difficult when your main competitor is Predator though!Comment
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not sure you can make that patent stand up in court, he has not invented or created anything! it is still in effect a cue!Comment
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I guess it depends on what context and whether or not someone is infringing the patent. This patent has been awarded, therefore, upon a potential infringement it will stand up in court, albeit a US one.
It is interesting that what seems to have been patented is the standard approach to manufacturing a snooker cue. This obviously hasn't been patented before, therefore, the 'inventor' has the right to claim it as his own.
Also interesting is the fact that this is a US patent for a snooker cue. There's obviously reasons behind doing it this way. Perhaps it has helped to now make the step into the pool market with Aramith - and to the subsequent development of the Phenoflex core.
All interesting stuff...Comment
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it is interesting but i don't really see the reason for the patent - here you would have no trouble in proving, for example, that peradon have been making cues to any spec for 120 years and since you can only own the rights for 70 i think, surely it is crazy to claim you own a cue design whatever than design may be - even if it stood up as it stands all you would have to do is change the butt diameter by 100th of a mm and then it would be impossible to enforce?Comment
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anyway did anyone else notice the bit that said to manufacture cues on a low cost basis - £300 is not my idea of low cost for a chinese cue!Comment
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I was thinking along the same lines. Surely there has got to be a little more to it than this...if a cuemaker produces cues similar to the specs within the patent but with an ever so slight difference as you mention, then I expect these cues could also be classed as low deflection cues.Originally Posted by ADR147 View PostComment
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under those terms i have just cleaned up for sale a low deflection powerglide pot black cue which must be about the same age as chris henry!Comment
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In the Aramith cue, there are some beads underr the ferrule, but I did nto read anything of that sort with the accurate cue.
I believe the Accurate cue patent is mainly a patent on a taper which follows a special math function, which the inventor believes can help reduce deflection.
On thing I have found to be very onteresting is that I do not aim liek the video described in the Aramith Accyrate video.
In the video, it is said by Chris Hendry that if you apply right hand english, then you need to aim more to the right. But I actaully aim more to the left or sometimes straight. when I am hitting the ball real soft, I aim even more to the left on right hand english. I only aim to the right when I am hitting a long pot, with power. But that also depends. I just use a regular shaft, so I am not sure what he is talking about to begin with.Comment
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I'm lost by the last post here,
Do you mean you apply left of centre striking on the cueball to apply right hand side???Comment
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I'm sort of astonished that Acuerate have sought to patent a shaft taper, that is truly bizarre.
If anyone wanted to patent a design element of a cue which appears to play as dead as the few I've ever hit a ball with, I wish them the best of luck and every success.
The bottom line is that the Acuerate cues are just another cue, and as such, are no more than the piece of equipment a player uses to play the game with. ANY player under ANY circumstances, will still HAVE to use their JUDGEMENT when using one of these cues, just as they do when using ANY other cue from ANY other maker.
Having a cue which minimises the throw/deflection of the cueball is only ONE of the NUMEROUS attributes a really great cue would need to posses.Comment
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When I want to hit the black with left hand english, to make it go off the bottom cushion, for my next red for example. I aim the center of the white a bit to the right of the point I usually aim with center strike, but I will address the cue ball to the left. If I shift my aim to the left like the video says, i will over cut unless I am hitting it really hard. The softer I hit my shot, I more I adjust my aim to the right.Originally Posted by trevs1 View Post
I feel that the english I apply would throw the ball into the pocket so to speak, I am not sure what actaully happen.
Also, when i have a shot that is almost straight, and I need to hit it with right stun, to force it to woden the angle to hit the cushion and then come off for another red above the black, I will also aim to the left, rather than right.
With some cues I need to adjust more, but usually not too much. Wen they are close to each other, i make almost no adjustment untless I am hitting them real soft.
Am I the only one? Now, I am feeling really weird....Comment
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Ah, I see what you're saying now....mostly.
What you are referring to is the throw of the white ball, and, having to make an allowance for your aiming, yes?
This is something which many cues will force you to do, and, is something that Acuerate claim to have overcome with these cues of theirs. The thing is though, cues which minimise the effect of throw, (or cueball deflection) are not a new concept at all.
Cues which are pretty conventional can be produced which will offer this quality when striking off centre. There is nothing new to the claims made by Acuerate, I'm sure a good number of cue makers are aware of what will make a cue throw the ball more, and do their best to avoid allowing those things into the specs of the cues they build.
Obviously, if a customer specifies a cue which is very likely to cause this throw effect, it's for the maker to point out exactly where those specs could be adjusted to minimise this unwanted issue, though whether many cue makers speak about this, I couldn't answer.
From what you've stated in your above posts, it sounds as though you are using a cue which is not really giving you the reliability you should expect in a cue. By that I mean that it sound as though your cue throws the ball excessively, which is not a good thing to be truthful. What ANY player should look for, is a cue whcih allows them to play shots with side (or English as you call it) with almost no aiming allowance made for the line of travel of the white ball. This quality in a cue will enable any player, to make better judgements with their aim, making allowances into a far smaller margin of error, which in turn, should result in greater and more consistent accuracy.
I hope I haven't bored everyone to tears with that.Comment
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