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  • Master Blaster
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    Originally Posted by trevs1 View Post
    In fairness, you are mixing facts with your own opinions.

    The law is there to protect consumers, and as such, will often come down on the side of the consumer.

    Anyway, I would be surprised if Mr Parris did not fully resolve any issues someone had, his customer service is generally very good from what I have ever heard.
    His service is patchy. They don't answer emails or update orders. Dreadful.

    But the OP was offered a refund or new cue so I see no problem. The offer of a repair would have been nice as well. How much extra time would it have taken to reglue one splice Trev? I'm guessing that if the splice has curled, it's a no hoper and it would have required new wood, which may not have matched? I wonder if it was snakewood! lol

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  • Master Blaster
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    Originally Posted by Shanizzo View Post
    Sorry Master Blaster, but you're wrong, to the point of being either ignorant, or imbecillic!!!

    Under the "Sale of Goods Act 1979" goods can be returned, and a full refund claimed, if the goods are;
    1. Not of satisfactory quality.
    2. Not exactly as dedcribed.
    3. Not of satisfactory appearance or finish.
    4. Not fit for purpose.

    Were you playing truant, at law school, the day they were teaching law???
    Hardly dear boy, hardly. I have assumed that the cue was 6mths or older when it split and here's CABS interpretation of the SoGA:

    You bought the goods more than six months ago

    If you received the goods more than six months ago, you can ask for a replacement or a repair as long as it's reasonable for the goods to have lasted this long. But you will have to be able to show there was something wrong with the goods at the time of sale.

    You can ask for a repair or replacement at any time up to six years after you bought the goods as long as it is reasonable for them to have lasted this long. If the goods go wrong after six years, you no longer have the right to ask for a repair or replacement. So the OP could ask for a refund or replacement but if the cue was 6mths or older (maybe the OP can inform us please?), JP could offer a repair and refuse both a replacement and refund. JP doesn't have to repair the cue if its uneconomic either (according to CAB). And essentially, he felt it was too much hassle, so he offered a new cue or a refund. He's complied with the law and more, so he's a top bloke for that.

    I'll say the obvious again, JP did all he could. The OP wanted a new cue made immediately, which is unrealistic. Particularly as the wood has to be planed in stages.

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  • trevs1
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    Originally Posted by Master Blaster
    You're right about the particulars of the SoGA, but interpretation is the key. Let's say the goods arrived in good order, as ordered, satisfying points 1-4 (thought many anti-JP will argue no JP cue can ever satisfy points 1-4 lol). Then the cue was played with and began splitting. JP could honestly say, my team make great cues, this doesn't happen, did you whack the cue butt (as many a player does). The OP would say, no I didn't whack it. JP would then have the options of repairing the cue if he wanted as the cue is now used. He could also replace or offer a refund at HIS discretion. Sale of Goods is important but so is the law of distant selling if ordered over the internet. I bet there's an entire thread on this particular cue somewhere, no doubt it has been discussed, a lot!

    If I go to sportsdirect and buy a pair of trainers and they split after three months, I take them back and say oi, your trainers are crap. They say hmmmmmmm and give me the stare. They eventually replace them because repairing them would be uneconomic, the factory is in Thailand, probably the same one making all those Thais cues with different badges. But they could repair the shoes if they wanted, it's their option. Case 3: my mate bought a very expensive amplifier from Richer Sounds. It stopped working after half a year, and they repaired it. It was sent to their UK repairers and fixed. They didn't offer a refund or a replacement.

    In fairness, you are mixing facts with your own opinions.

    The law is there to protect consumers, and as such, will often come down on the side of the consumer.

    Anyway, I would be surprised if Mr Parris did not fully resolve any issues someone had, his customer service is generally very good from what I have ever heard.

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  • les147
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    Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
    Joints and glue aren't my first choice but angel ash may overcome those problems. And cut, planed and glued by Parris is different to glued by any other cue maker. This is Parris we're talking about, ultimate craftsmanship!
    What a crock of s**t

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  • Shanizzo
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    Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
    In law he doesn't have to offer you a new cue or a refund, he could have simply offered a repair as you'd used the cue I'm guessing. So what you got was actually very good customer service. A lot of cue makers like Aurora would have done nothing for you at all.
    Sorry Master Blaster, but you're wrong, to the point of being either ignorant, or imbecillic!!!

    Under the "Sale of Goods Act 1979" goods can be returned, and a full refund claimed, if the goods are;
    1. Not of satisfactory quality.
    2. Not exactly as dedcribed.
    3. Not of satisfactory appearance or finish.
    4. Not fit for purpose.

    Were you playing truant, at law school, the day they were teaching law???

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  • Master Blaster
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    Originally Posted by I just want a ton! View Post
    I've never played snooker in tight pants and neither has my boyfriend!

    hahahahaha! Quality retort. A bit like your cue; a quality retort to the Parris naysayers. Don't let your boyfriend use that cue! He can order his own and wait three years instead.

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  • I just want a ton!
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    Originally Posted by justf View Post
    Lol, a great post and oh so true!!!!
    I've never played snooker in tight pants and neither has my boyfriend!

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  • justf
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    Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    well I like it very colourful cue and I don't want to rain on your parade but the cue reminds me of another parade


    Lol, a great post and oh so true!!!!

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  • Maverick54
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    Originally Posted by I just want a ton! View Post
    My sentiments exactly. Someone's like, will be someone else's dislike. It was said back in the thread, "let's not rain on his parade", people's honesty is absolutely fine.
    I think my wife is a stunner, some think she's a right gopping gremlin!
    Excellent reply folk used to think my ex was a bit of a minger too. I was to bloody honest to tell em they were wrong

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  • Byrom
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    well I like it very colourful cue and I don't want to rain on your parade but the cue reminds me of another parade

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  • I just want a ton!
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    Originally Posted by Maverick54 View Post
    Dead right Leo. If anyone post pics of their cue surely it is to get honest opinions as to what folk think of their cue as no one wants to be lied to do they?

    It is just folks personal opinion and dusn't matter a jot, its what the cues owner thinks that matters and if he's happy with it that's great.

    Just in case anyone was mistaking my art of tact and diplomacy for me sitting on the fence I will just say that in MY personal opinion it looks grotesque, but perhaps I don't see what others do.
    My sentiments exactly. Someone's like, will be someone else's dislike. It was said back in the thread, "let's not rain on his parade", people's honesty is absolutely fine.
    I think my wife is a stunner, some think she's a right gopping gremlin!

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  • golferson123
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    **Post Pictures of your cue!**

    we made 10 a week 3/4 split,that is in batches of ten.as for sellin em that's a different matter, just two of us

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  • Leo
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    To any cuemakers out there a serious question... Let's say the bear has a team in his workshop for arguments sake let's say 4, my question is how many cues could they knock out a week if they wanted to?

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  • guernseygooner
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    Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
    How will anyone know which is real tho?
    The one with accurate splicing is the fake

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  • jrc750
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    Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
    Just an idea but maybe JPU owners should blot out the numbers using photoshop etc before posting photos. If the fakers don't have the numbers, they will find it more difficult to make a fake that also matches up with the cue design which will make it easier for owners and TSF to spot fakes and call them out.

    We can't stop em buying real JPUs and faking those cues though.
    How will anyone know which is real tho?

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