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[JasonOwen]

Couple just out of the shed....




More pics in my Jason Owen cues thread.

[mattyshinobi22]

a few pics of my new stick a phoenix supreme machine spliced 58" 19oz 9.7mm. [ATTACH=CONFIG]12265[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]12266[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]12267[/ATTACH]

fine looking cue, top shaft

[Guy3103]

Not bad at all for a machine spliced cue...

a few pics of my new stick a phoenix supreme machine spliced 58" 19oz 9.7mm. [ATTACH=CONFIG]12265[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]12266[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]12267[/ATTACH]

[machine230677]

a few pics of my new stick a phoenix supreme machine spliced 58" 19oz 9.7mm. 20121103_145306.jpg20121103_145609.jpg20121103_145404.jpg

[narl]

After looking at the larger pics of the ultimate the thuya burl crossover is slightly lower on the right hand side than on the left. That being said is it worth sending it back and waiting a few weeks for the correction to be made?

[perpetualboredom]

If we look at the alignment of the 6" ebony shaft splices on the centre cue, we can see that they do not appear perfectly lined up with the olivewood splices on the butt yes.? The reason for that would be because the joint faces have worn slightly through use (hence the question of cue age / amount of use), which in turn means that the position the joint locks at is at slightly more of a turn than it was when the cue was new. This causes the misalignment of the ebony shaft splices to ANY lower existing splices. Now, when any ADDITIONAL splice work is done (and where any part of the older lower splices are still visible), it would look very very odd to have those NEW splices fitted to align with the short ebony shaft splices, but NOT the existing lower olivewood splices, which are still partly visible.

Perfectly fair points im sure but my eyes must be getting old then.. to me the original olivewood and the ebony splice points align perfectly, but the new ones are off to the right against both! Suppose the owner would be only one who can see that properly but im not seeing anything out of alignment with the original bits.

Nice to see customer service is alive and well and John offered to sort it out, I never had any doubt they would on that score, I was just concerned that the OP was reluctant to mention it to them.

[billabong]

That's what I was just about to say . . . . .

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[trevs1]

Was sent an email and asked for my view on these cues last night. This was what I typed up but didn't post at the time.....



Not that I am looking to defend John Parris in any way, but, there's a question that needs to be asked here, which is..... How old were these cues before the resplice.???

From what I can see of those cues, I'd say he's being vilified for very little reason here. Yes ok, they have been respliced, and yes, the one with the olivewood DOES look as though the lower (new) set of four splices is "slightly" out of alignment with those (older ones) above, but, that could be the angle the cue is pictured at. Not sure.

The MAJOR issue that is being discussed here is the fact that the splice work that has been carried out is NOT aligned to the EBONY splices on the shafts.

Now, there's a simple enough reason for that, and it's this......

If we look at the alignment of the 6" ebony shaft splices on the centre cue, we can see that they do not appear perfectly lined up with the olivewood splices on the butt yes.? The reason for that would be because the joint faces have worn slightly through use (hence the question of cue age / amount of use), which in turn means that the position the joint locks at is at slightly more of a turn than it was when the cue was new. This causes the misalignment of the ebony shaft splices to ANY lower existing splices. Now, when any ADDITIONAL splice work is done (and where any part of the older lower splices are still visible), it would look very very odd to have those NEW splices fitted to align with the short ebony shaft splices, but NOT the existing lower olivewood splices, which are still partly visible.

Doing it that way would mean that you have the ebony top splices on the shaft, and then an offset four lower splices of olivewood and then another set of four olivewood splices lower down, which are offset to those above them again. It would look awful done that way, as all the splices would appear to zig zag in sets of four down the cue.

The same issue applies to the other cue, although on that cue, it looks as though ALL older existing splices were removed and replaced. Reason again is......If any old splices were removed, the new ones would HAVE TO be placed where the old one WERE, otherwise you would see parts of the old splices sticking out one side of ALL the NEW replaced splices. The new splices cannot be placed to realign with the short ebony shaft splices without removing one part of the joint and refitting it to correct alignment.

Confusing I know, but true nonetheless.

[DeanH]

I am not a cuemaker but I am concerned that just sending the butt(s) back for resplicing wont work as the ebony points are not on the butt(s) and there would be no point of reference for the new splicing? Possibly come back worse?

[ongkia]

Had spoken to John himself yesterday evening. He did apologize for the flaws on the cues, told me to just send the butts back for rectification. Really not sure whether to do that just yet cos both cues are playing great n are well balanced. If these butts were to be re-spliced again to correct the flaws, then the overall balance may be different again. Or I may just keep them as they are since both cues have some sentimental values to me, and I'm NOT going to sell them anyway. I guess, these flaws would make them a 'Special Edition' cue!!

I've another 'Ultimate' on order since May this year and I told John that he MUST personally check this cue to ensure it is free from this kind of flaws again and do not send it out to me unless he is satisfied with the work. So, I guess something positive did come out of this after all!!

[haggishunter]

Perhaps it may not be John himself making the cues....??

That was my point, I'm pretty sure that if he was still a one man band things like this would never really happen, but they would happen now and again as they probably happen to the rest of these cue makers. I wouldn't mock his gear because i can't, i have limited experience with parris cues, my bro has one and it's lovely. However was it made by john himself? Probably not.... But its a nice cue none the less, simple ebony and ash, but it's all spot on.

[raymo147]

******yip*********

[raymo147]

Tip expectation of quality is high and expected with Parris
but you don't always get it.

[crispian jones]

It'll bother the next owner (and your wallet) if you ever sold it..

Bang on with that statment !!

[rob s]

Firstly I own a beautiful JPU and JP paragon so I am not in the "I hate parris club" as he does make some lovely cues (and some shockers) but I recently chose to send my John parris ultimate to robin cook to have it refinished new ferrule new tip etc as I've seen some shocking work come out of parris workshop in the last 12 months on the forum and 1st hand. I'm guessing this must be down to new staff and less experienced staff doing work and John not being able to check every single cue that leaves the place inc alteration jobs, due to him being so busy. I personally feel robin cook and trevor white are the people I would trust the most with my cue as they are very experience cuemakers at the top of their field, not too expensive and I know the work will be carried out by them and nobody else. As most of you are aware trevor is not currently taking on any alterations or work on cues that are not 1 of his which is totally understandable so I sent my cue to robin cook. Even though the work I had done was minor I knew it would be great as I've had alterations, retapering etc done by robin before. Robin was quick to respond and even rang me on a Sunday to let me know that he was starting work on the cue. As expected when I received the cue back everything was immaculate and the cue felt better than new with a lovely oiled finish and the ferrule fitted nicely. I've also had cues respliced by robin and every time the work is amazing and I cannot recommend him enough. It's a shame but even though I play with a John parris cue he is not the 1st person I would send my cue to for any work.