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[haggishunter]

Trouble is how do you rectify a problem like this? It needs to be re-spliced (again) and could add to the weight or make the butt thicker and could end up looking like a very funny cue once its been re-done and re-done. The value of the cue will be depreciating in value anyway everytime repairs are undertaken as its obvious what work has been done. Didn't Trevor recently get the measurements wrong on a repair on the cue he made for Higgins. Even the best make mistakes and that for a pro, the way some of you talk its as though this is a major issue. Its a slight cosmetic fault, I've seen hundreds of cues with splices or points out down the years, you know what though, if the cue plays well, who cares really!

Fair, my cue off raymo is a good playing cue, hits the ball nicely, doesn't look as 'perfect' as some but it plays as well!

[haggishunter]

I always use this term for a JP cue.... "Factory Cues"
Correct me if I am wrong....... Sorry, no offense to JP's fans

If I have the budget, I'll get a MW & TW..... never never JP.
Currently only mastercraft & dunn.

I saw Jason's sinbin cue, is actually nice.... but I was late !!

Cheers ~~~~~~~

Maybe what the lad means is that if you buy a wooldridge, cook, white etc then it's made by themselves, but if you buy a parris then it's made by one of the other employees....? But doesn't it say in mw's site that a cue may not be 'fully' made by him but will have his involvement somewhere and it's up to him as to whether it goes out? (might be wrong there, been a while since I read his site). My bro got a second hand parris recently off a member here and it's lovely. If i was to buy a cue from cue makers of that level, i would hope that they were as good as they can be.

[farrelld91]

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Got this sin bin cue from jim evans, absolute bargain.
58 1/4"
16oz
9.5mm
28mm butt
balance at 16"

Only reason it was a sin bin is cos of the grain, ive seen a lot worse sold for full price, so the flat was put on the side grain

Really nice alternating paduk and teak butt splices with darker veneers on the paduk, pictures really dont do it justice really nice looking cue and very nice hit off it too

[narl]

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It'll probably have to be planed off then redone from the looks of it.

[cueman]

Trouble is how do you rectify a problem like this? It needs to be re-spliced (again) and could add to the weight or make the butt thicker and could end up looking like a very funny cue once its been re-done and re-done. The value of the cue will be depreciating in value anyway everytime repairs are undertaken as its obvious what work has been done. Didn't Trevor recently get the measurements wrong on a repair on the cue he made for Higgins. Even the best make mistakes and that for a pro, the way some of you talk its as though this is a major issue. Its a slight cosmetic fault, I've seen hundreds of cues with splices or points out down the years, you know what though, if the cue plays well, who cares really!

[narl]

never seen him sell one!

Well they have to be giong somewhere, with the amount of cues he's had over the years he must have a closet full of them by this point if theyre not selling. Can picture him opening the closet and them falling out like spears.

[ADR147]

Depends really on the buyer, most people would just be happy to own an ultimate for the prestiege factor. Ive seen fedia flog one or two with splices slightly out for his usual markup so its not something that will bother everyone.

never seen him sell one!

[narl]

It'll bother the next owner (and your wallet) if you ever sold it..

Depends really on the buyer, most people would just be happy to own an ultimate for the prestiege factor. Ive seen fedia flog one or two with splices slightly out for his usual markup so its not something that will bother everyone.

[perpetualboredom]

From what I'm told he inspects them before they go out. At the minute they're probably getting hammered with work for Christmas so possibly some things slip by if he's not available. To be perfectly honest i don't think it would bother me anyway, not as if im gonna stand gawking at the butt while playing a shot, "Ultimate" has always been about an asthetically pleasing shaft more so than having perfect splices, though with that name and the price people are entitled to having them perfect. Different strokes etc

It'll bother the next owner (and your wallet) if you ever sold it..

[narl]

Not when you pay JP prices, cosmetics are part of what you pay for.
To not even align the splices with the originals is ridiculous.

Gotta say, I wouldnt let that go in a million years!! Jeez that is terrible. Id be amazed if John Parris himself knew that was sent out to a customer.

From what I'm told he inspects them before they go out. At the minute they're probably getting hammered with work for Christmas so possibly some things slip by if he's not available. To be perfectly honest i don't think it would bother me anyway, not as if im gonna stand gawking at the butt while playing a shot, "Ultimate" has always been about an asthetically pleasing shaft more so than having perfect splices, though with that name and the price people are entitled to having them perfect. Different strokes etc

[JasonOwen]

Not when you pay JP prices, cosmetics are part of what you pay for.
To not even align the splices with the originals is ridiculous.

Gotta say, I wouldnt let that go in a million years!! Jeez that is terrible. Id be amazed if John Parris himself knew that was sent out to a customer.

[perpetualboredom]

But what is to say that the best craftsman have to stop what they are doing for what is in essence a repair job? Just because the cue is an ultimate does not mean that it has to be worked on by his best workers when it comes back for extra work to be carried out. By all means if you think that splicing points are that accurate then complain but for me its just purely a slight cosmetic issue that you need to go looking for to critique. Personally you buy a JP for its playability factor, I've said numerous times that cosmetics of a cue are just that.

Not when you pay JP prices, cosmetics are part of what you pay for.
To not even align the splices with the originals is ridiculous.

[DeanH]

Well the chevrons on the ash shaft are aligned with the point of the ebony, the "cosmetic" splices points are not aligned with the ebony points, the butt chamfer/flat is aligned with the cosmetic splices. As I play with the flat in a certain place everytime, i.e.on top, the mis-alignment of the splices/flat with the chevrons would not be what I expect and hence could affect the playablity of the cue for me.
Personally, I would contact JP and have a chat about the mis-alignment if it was my cue.
cheers

[cueman]

You would have thought then that an ultimate cue returned for extra splicing would have the same top craftsmen looking after the work .

Which makes the 10mm splice difference a bit difficult to figure out . Maybe one that slipped through the net ?

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But what is to say that the best craftsman have to stop what they are doing for what is in essence a repair job? Just because the cue is an ultimate does not mean that it has to be worked on by his best workers when it comes back for extra work to be carried out. By all means if you think that splicing points are that accurate then complain but for me its just purely a slight cosmetic issue that you need to go looking for to critique. Personally you buy a JP for its playability factor, I've said numerous times that cosmetics of a cue are just that.

[narl]

Sorry, my language expression may not be good, I only start to speak, read & write English when I no longer a teenager... LOL.

done by a group of workers in a factory, mass production....
correct me if I am wrong, sincerely apologize if I am wrong.

Cheers~~~~~~~

Theres 12 workers and according to John they complete about 20 cues a week, far too small a number to be even close to be considered "mass production".