cue alteration

[mattyshinobi22]

hi all

a question for all cue making experts
wondering if it is possible to re weight my osborne cue?
av been told the joint is where most weight is, and the cue is forward weighted, all in shaft.

is it possible to reduce the weight?, seems very heavy even tho its 18.5 onz

[Burwat Champ]

Maybe best to PM TREVS1 or Mike wooldride

[mattyuk]

yes its possible to reduce and increase weight. i added an ounce when i sent my old one to mike, but i have a wooldrudge one which is actually lighter but plays like a dream.

[MikeWooldridge]

hi all

a question for all cue making experts
wondering if it is possible to re weight my osborne cue?
av been told the joint is where most weight is, and the cue is forward weighted, all in shaft.

is it possible to reduce the weight?, seems very heavy even tho its 18.5 onz

i'm gonna assume it's a standard butt join cue which probably has no added weight. so although only 18.5oz, it probably feels heavy cos it is 'too' forward balanced for you. this means you feel the weight more on your bridging hand.

quoted from the advice section (www.handmadecues.com/home/26-whatsizes.htm) on my website:

Probably a more important consideration than just the actual weight of a cue is the balance of a cue, i.e. how the weight is distributed.

Let me give you an example - you can have two identical cues, both weighing, say, 17oz but they will 'feel' completely different when playing shots due to the balance being different. One may be butt heavy and the other may have a forward balance.

again, assuming there is no added weight, this leads me to think the ash may be particularly heavy. in which case, change cues.

all cues take a little while to get used to but, within reason, a cue should feel right as soon as you pick it up. your particular cue may feel perfect to someone else, but clearly you have a problem, and that specific problem is not one i think you will be able to 'fix' to your satisfaction.

strangely enough, you'll probably get a better feel from the cue by making it heavier and adding weight at the bottom, thus bringing the balance point back a little bit....

but i reckon you're better off starting afresh.

p.s. i have some nice cues for sale...

only joking, the advice i've given is good...

[mattyuk]

get a wooldridge cue matty, as soon as i picked it up i knew i had something special...

[LWB]

get a wooldridge cue matty, as soon as i picked it up i knew i had something special...

I hope you're getting good commission mattyuk.

[MikeWooldridge]

you nearly had your hands on one a couple of weeks back LWB, and maybe if you did, you'd be as happy as mattyuk....

and earning a grand a week for all the leads you get me...

[Jlaix]

Have your tried giving Rob himself a call Matt.?

[mattyshinobi22]

yeh, he said they can take joint out and reduce weight from shaft or drill butt out and reduce it that way.

but it messes around with the cues balance, so dont know what to do

[poolqjunkie]

Mike,
I thought a more forward balanced cue would feel light, because a butt heavy cue would feel like it takes more effort to deliver it forward. I guess it is the other way around? May be if it is too forward balance?

[LWB]

you nearly had your hands on one a couple of weeks back LWB, and maybe if you did, you'd be as happy as mattyuk....

and earning a grand a week for all the leads you get me...

Yes you're right don't get me started I'm still bitter about it. Is that the going rate? I've been singing your praises through pm's and other forums for months I swear .

Someone needs to start selling cues out of Edinburgh, all you cue makers are south of the boarder! We have great players and no great cue makers!

And I'm sending you my damned majestic as soon as the pool season is over, finally, but that's for pol not snooker.

[MikeWooldridge]

Mike,
I thought a more forward balanced cue would feel light, because a butt heavy cue would feel like it takes more effort to deliver it forward. I guess it is the other way around? May be if it is too forward balance?

yes, light in the butt maybe, but 'heavy' on the bridge. which is probably why mattyshinobi22 can't get on with it. he probably needs the balance back a bit.

it's not necessarily 'the other way round', just in this case, i reckon that's why he thinks it feels heavy even though it's not particularly heavy.

[MikeWooldridge]

yeh, he said they can take joint out and reduce weight from shaft or drill butt out and reduce it that way.

but it messes around with the cues balance, so dont know what to do

you'll have to hollow out loads of the shaft to notice any difference in weight. NOT a good idea.

and even the butt needs a lot of ebony to be removed to make a noticeable difference.

imo, it's always advisable to leave ALL the wood in the cue. if you start taking wood out, well, i just don't like it...

another option would be to taper the shaft. you can take out quite a bit of weight that way. and if weight comes off the shaft, the balance moves back and the whole 'feel' would probably be better for you.

in fact, if you're gonna stick with the cue, that's probably your best bet. taper the shaft and add the weight that's lost to the butt so the cue stays same weight.

it'll be like a new cue...

[mattyshinobi22]

thanks mike for that

dont wont to get rid of the cue just yet as it was quite a bit of money
going to get it re tapered, av been told by someone that shaving a bit of the joint will take the weight down too, any disadvatages of this?

[ADR147]

just changing the joint to mikes would save you at least half an ounce!