Parris cue

[paulbur]

i have a parris cue and i dont know why everyone keeps knocking them, ive read post on here where people say i havent seen one or played with one but i wouldnt recommened buying one, if you go to parris cues in london and buy a cue and you cant get on with it he gives you a couple of weeks to take it back and exchange it for another cue, as far as i know i dont think any of the cue makers that use this site will do the same, you might get stuck with a cue that is not suited to you, so for the people that have never used one but like to slate them dont knock it til you try it.

[poolqjunkie]

You can send the pictures to John Parris, and he can tell you if he made the cue. If the pictures are not clear for him to say so, he will ask you for better pictures.

I have a JP with 7 evenly spaced arrows, but had one with very close arrows all pointing upward as well, which I got directly from John.

I like my JP cue very much.

I think workamnship wise you can get better cues from some other top makers, which is true. His price is high but his resale value is good as well. It is an intenationally recognized brand name. He is the most copied snooker cue maker in the world, I think.

If his cues do not play well, I doubt the pros will be using them. There are many others who will be more than happy to give a pro a free cue, especially pros such as ROS.

I think you need to see and try his cues before you really pass judgment. In my opinion, they are quite nice as playing cues.

Public opinion sometimes are affected by peer pressure. Some people do not want to sound foolish and some want to sound smart by agreeing or disagreeing to the opinion of the mainstream. Once there are a few voices complaining about a name, more will normally follow, especially when the maker is not interested in defending himself on the forum.

I think we also need to bear in mind that John Parris is probably having a much higher output than other top names, so he will need to have helps. But he is not the only person with helps in his shop. We should focus on his quality control, rather than the fact that he has help, when we want to judge his quality. Having said that, I have an old JP now, and I feel much better playing with this cue than my last one, which was purchased brand new. But every cue I expect to be a bit different, so it is hard for me to really say.

If I want something that looks really nice, I will likely go to Trevor or Mike. I saw some of Mike's cue, and they are beautifully executed. Truly the work of a master. Not seen any JP with the same level of craftsmanship yet. But that is not to say JP is not capable. I just have not seen enough to make that kind of comparison. I suspect JP is making his cues with a different set up than other cuemakers, he might be doing it more on a mass production scale now. But if you have a formula of success and are able to reproduce it with consistency, this method can still yield good result.

Anyway, I am sure if you send pictures to John, he will tell you if the cue is real or not.

[MikeWooldridge]

i have a parris cue and i dont know why everyone keeps knocking them, ive read post on here where people say i havent seen one or played with one but i wouldnt recommened buying one, if you go to parris cues in london and buy a cue and you cant get on with it he gives you a couple of weeks to take it back and exchange it for another cue, as far as i know i dont think any of the cue makers that use this site will do the same, you might get stuck with a cue that is not suited to you, so for the people that have never used one but like to slate them dont knock it til you try it.

there are many experienced cue buyers/collectors/voyeurs(!) on this forum, and it's the issue of quality control versus price. historically, there have been cues that are simply not up to scratch whereas others have been good. if all were good then nobody would be knocking anyone. you're happy so you got a good one.

personally speaking, i'll do whatever it takes to make a customer happy. so you're wrong to assume all other cue makers on this site don't offer an after service designed to satisfy a customer.

i guarantee satisfaction, and always have done, but rarely do i have any customers who feel the need to 'exchange' so it's not an issue. but if they're ever unhappy i'll sort them out. you won't find any of my customers who feel hard done by.

[barracuda911]

Looks like the cue in question might have been dodgy...its seller has removed it from ebay. 320278893949
hmmmm...

[Brijacq]

Yup he sent me a PM about me saying his cue was fake, and that i should remove this thread from the forum. I have looked back at my posts and cant see the one that accused him of selling a fake cue, only the ones asking if it looked genuine. Anyway i have damaged his reputation and he is not too happy.

[Watford]

I've seen dozens of Parris cues my advice is if you see the cue and play with it you should be fine.
The disapointed people are those who either buy off flea bay or have to wait ages for it not to be up to their expectations.
For me you can get more consistant quality from other makers for less cash.
No doubt Parris can still turn out a good cue, I have seen a couple of shockers though.

[Snookeraddict147]

and what cuemakers makes the best cue?

[Watford]

and what cuemakers makes the best cue?

What length is a piece of string?

I could suggest a few candidates but it would be all opinion.

I own a Trevor White I have seen few better.
Kieth Auld
Mike Wooldridge
are often on here and seem sound, I've seen two of Mikes cues they were good.
You'd have to include Parris.
Northwest cues can be good.
Robert Osborne, Will Hunt, I could go on naming people who'd be contenders.
Glover, Stamford, Coutts, Robin, Tony Wilshaw, Ions etc

If you start factoring price into the bargain you bring in the Thais and Craftsman!

[MikeWooldridge]

What length is a piece of string?

I could suggest a few candidates but it would be all opinion.

I own a Trevor White I have seen few better.
Kieth Auld
Mike Wooldridge
are often on here and seem sound, I've seen two of Mikes cues they were good.
You'd have to include Parris.
Northwest cues can be good.
Robert Osborne, Will Hunt, I could go on naming people who'd be contenders.
Glover, Stamford, Coutts, Robin, Tony Wilshaw, Ions etc

If you start factoring price into the bargain you bring in the Thais and Craftsman!

have you seen and compared cues by all the above makers?

[archalf1471]

Would he like to???????

[Watford]

Not all Mike!
I've not seen any of Keith's, Coutts or Tony Wilshaw. Got a case from Stamford does that count

I've got a Trevor White
Seen 2 of yours didn't play with them, seen 1 Robin.
Seen and played with loads of Parris', Northwest cues Craftsman.
Played with 3 Glovers, 2 Ions a few Master Cues.

I've said this before that I can't give a full explanation of all I've seen every time I post.
Is this enough detail are do you want a write up on each cue?

[MikeWooldridge]

Not all Mike!
I've not seen any of Keith's, Coutts or Tony Wilshaw. Got a case from Stamford does that count

I've got a Trevor White
Seen 2 of yours didn't play with them, seen 1 Robin.
Seen and played with loads of Parris', Northwest cues Craftsman.
Played with 3 Glovers, 2 Ions a few Master Cues.

I've said this before that I can't give a full explanation of all I've seen every time I post.
Is this enough detail are do you want a write up on each cue?

lol. no, i want dates and places please...

the only reason i asked, was cos the person asked 'who makes the best cues'. a difficult one to answer definitively, but there are names on your list that do not come close, regardless of opinion.

which could be slightly misleading to someone looking to be pointed in the right direction.

but i agree with you, no simple answer. most of the people you mentioned are perfectly capable of making a good cue.

[Watford]

I know what you mean I wasn't really giving my opinion of who makes the best. I was just sort of mentioning cuemakers who people have made positive comments about to me over the years and illustrating that you can't really say easily.
I didn't mention Mastercraft, B&W or Burroughes and Watts.

I missed Osborne out I've seen a couple of his too. Played against someone who had a Will Hunt years ago didn't get me hands on it.

I could give pros and cons for a few makers I've mentioned.

Whats the best?
Is money no option if not then that makes it a bit different than if you are also looking at good value.

I'd be interested to know who you didn't rate out of my original list Mike.
Maybe PM and I won't repeat if you don't want me to.

[Snookeraddict147]

Money is so far not so really important... (under 1000 pounds)

Maybe (if you want) you can send me sth. bout the good cues (info and so on... )

How can I find out that a good cue fits to me and my playing style? How difficult is that to find out?????????? Hope any1 can help me...

so far thanks Watford!!Help me a lot!!

[ADR147]

have you seen and compared cues by all the above makers?

hehe - maybe not but i have..