Snooker Cue Weights

[kissingthepink]

Hi everybody, I am new on here but can you experts answer a quick question.
I have quite a large collection of cues, and I am a carpenter by trade.
My son is a keen junior and loves playing with my John Parris Classic 3/4, however it is a little too long for him so I am in the process of shortening it for him. I have managed to get the joint off, but to my suprise it has been hollowed out and a length of steel threaded bar has been inserted I assume for the weight?
There is no way I can shorten the butt now, I always assumed British cuemakers inserted lead through the end of the butt to add weight, the only time I have seen this method used is in cheap imported cues.
Your advice please!

[Watford]

I would have expected lead as well.
Do you not think it might be safer at a cue makers?
Is it not viable to sorten it at the tip end and get it tapered again?

[kissingthepink]

I would have expected lead as well.
Do you not think it might be safer at a cue makers?
Is it not viable to sorten it at the tip end and get it tapered again?

It might be the only option, although I'll have to get somebody to do it for me.

[ADR147]

Hi everybody, I am new on here but can you experts answer a quick question.
I have quite a large collection of cues, and I am a carpenter by trade.
My son is a keen junior and loves playing with my John Parris Classic 3/4, however it is a little too long for him so I am in the process of shortening it for him. I have managed to get the joint off, but to my suprise it has been hollowed out and a length of steel threaded bar has been inserted I assume for the weight?
There is no way I can shorten the butt now, I always assumed British cuemakers inserted lead through the end of the butt to add weight, the only time I have seen this method used is in cheap imported cues.
Your advice please!

you shorten it from the other end.

[kissingthepink]

you shorten it from the other end.

Thanks ADR147

[kevy62]

Hi everybody, I am new on here but can you experts answer a quick question.
I have quite a large collection of cues, and I am a carpenter by trade.
My son is a keen junior and loves playing with my John Parris Classic 3/4, however it is a little too long for him so I am in the process of shortening it for him. I have managed to get the joint off, but to my suprise it has been hollowed out and a length of steel threaded bar has been inserted I assume for the weight?
There is no way I can shorten the butt now, I always assumed British cuemakers inserted lead through the end of the butt to add weight, the only time I have seen this method used is in cheap imported cues.
Your advice please!

Hi there, please excuse me asking this, is there any way that this cue might not be a genuine Parris cue?

eg: did you buy this from JP yourself ? or buy it on Ebay ?

I am asking as he is known to use lead for custom weighting, but this is the first time i have heard that he used threaded steel bar? many thanks.

[kissingthepink]

Hi there, please excuse me asking this, is there any way that this cue might not be a genuine Parris cue?

eg: did you buy this from JP yourself ? or buy it on Ebay ?

I am asking as he is known to use lead for custom weighting, but this is the first time i have heard that he used threaded steel bar? many thanks.

I bought it from one of the lads from the club unused, I will try to speak to him to see if he has the receipt.

[kevy62]

I bought it from one of the lads from the club unused, I will try to speak to him to see if he has the receipt.

I E-MAILD YOUR CONCERN DIRECTLY TO JP, IT IS THE ENTIRE REPLY (minus my email addy)

RE: steel threaded section in the butt of one of your cues?
From: Parris Cues (sales@parriscues.com)
Sent: 31 October 2008 10:37:24
To: kevy62*******.com

HI



if we put any weight in our cues it will be lead, most of our cues are naturally weighted



Regards,

Parris Cues

[kissingthepink]

I E-MAILD YOUR CONCERN DIRECTLY TO JP, IT IS THE ENTIRE REPLY (minus my email addy)

RE: steel threaded section in the butt of one of your cues?
From: Parris Cues (sales@parriscues.com)
Sent: 31 October 2008 10:37:24
To: kevy62*******.com

HI



if we put any weight in our cues it will be lead, most of our cues are naturally weighted



Regards,

Parris Cues

Thanks for that kevy, must be a fake, I'll put the joint back on and try to find who sold it to me

[Mellow Yellow]

It could be a genuine but modified by another cuemaker?

[ADR147]

anybody could have put the thing in it - e-mail me the pictures and i will usually be able to tell you if its real or not.

[kevy62]

Thanks for that kevy, must be a fake, I'll put the joint back on and try to find who sold it to me

My advise would be give JP a ring , some cues do get modded by pro/am makers, so at least you would know for sure? maybe post the butt to him!


If you decide to mod it yourself & it goes belly up, contact me here as i just might be able to help

You would need to send me the whole cue though

[kevy62]

It could be a genuine but modified by another cuemaker?

without a doubt that is possible of course! but i personally don't think anyone would rip out a JP butt joint & wind in a threaded steel bolt! unless the cue only weighed about 12oz to start with, unlikely, sorry.

I think it is far more likely that the timber in the butt is either stained/dyed to look like ebony & that is why it is weighted.

[cocked hat]

The expansion ratio of steel is totally different to wood,surely the cue couldn't survive long term?

[kevy62]

The expansion ratio of steel is totally different to wood,surely the cue couldn't survive long term?

smart observation, but in this case, i'm afraid the steel will have no direct bearing on how long a cue will last, the steel would have to either get extermely hot, or extremely cold, in order to either expand or contract as it is encased inside a 30mm wooden butt.

I'm pretty sure we all know, that letting a cue get either too hot or too cold, could ruin a cue anyway.