Originally Posted by trevs1
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Mr. Keith Auld, althrough you are retired, please don't retired my money as well
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Wow just spent the last couple of hours reading this whole thread.
Looks like Kieth was the man with the master plan.
PoolJunkie.... you're da man, much respect to all the advice and help you gave to stephen from the start despite some negativity thrown at you!! Welldone!
Could Stephen use Advice bureau from here, living in Hong Kong?
Very kind of Trevor1 for making a cue for Stepehen. He should like it judging by the comments and reviews made refering to your cue quality and craftsmanship.
And Mike, if I had the money I would deffo have got a cue from you through the review and info from this site. Its just I'm so hard up now I can't afford it. Hopefully in the future I would be fortunante enough to experience one, if you're not retired by then (this is where my next point comes in).
I sincerly hope that all bad reviews or comments on manufacturers or forum members products DON'T get deleted on here.
I am new to this forum, and like many others, rely on all the info, pro's/con's, good/bad about products, to help me decide who or where to take my hard earned cash for business.
I would have been well ****ed if I was in Stephens Shoes, especialy if I found out it could have all been avoided if it weren't for the locked or deleted negative info.
The reason why I am on here is because of a search for a new cue initialy, and found this forum to be one of the more active Snooker forums about.
So please, please modes keep this forum a whirl pool of unbiased info, for all of us.
And protect all your members from foul play.
Only delete if its absolutly somone being a ponce, and trying to cause trouble or whatever.
But important info that will help someone spend their hard earned money wisely, and help good people on here make a good living, and prevent a con person from reaping in, should never get deleted or locked.
Once again it is the main reason why I came upon this forum and registered.
Sorry to sound so prude, I'm a nice guy really.
Had bad experiences in the past that could have been avoided.
LOVE THIS GAME/SPORT SO MUCH!!
Nam.
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Good grief what a bunch of loosers picking on a sick man...why are you all so keen to stick the boot in to Kieth Auld? Has Trevor White or Mike W or John Parris never mad a bad cue? Maybee yes or maybe not but if an unsatisfied customer started being rude or slating you calling you names, would you be in a rush to re-fund or repair it?
My advice to the guy who made the original complaint is be nice, people often respond better to politness rather than outright character assasination.
The best cue maker in the world is without doubt a tree...keep smiling and happy christmas, good will to all cue makers and peace on earth
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Originally Posted by 1lawyer View PostGood grief what a bunch of loosers picking on a sick man...why are you all so keen to stick the boot in to Kieth Auld? Has Trevor White or Mike W or John Parris never mad a bad cue? Maybee yes or maybe not but if an unsatisfied customer started being rude or slating you calling you names, would you be in a rush to re-fund or repair it?
My advice to the guy who made the original complaint is be nice, people often respond better to politness rather than outright character assasination.
The best cue maker in the world is without doubt a tree...keep smiling and happy christmas, good will to all cue makers and peace on earth
Peace on Earth! My A$$!
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Originally Posted by 1lawyer View PostGood grief what a bunch of loosers picking on a sick man...why are you all so keen to stick the boot in to Kieth Auld? Has Trevor White or Mike W or John Parris never mad a bad cue? Maybee yes or maybe not but if an unsatisfied customer started being rude or slating you calling you names, would you be in a rush to re-fund or repair it?
My advice to the guy who made the original complaint is be nice, people often respond better to politness rather than outright character assasination.
The best cue maker in the world is without doubt a tree...keep smiling and happy christmas, good will to all cue makers and peace on earth
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Originally Posted by 1lawyer View PostGood grief what a bunch of loosers picking on a sick man...why are you all so keen to stick the boot in to Kieth Auld? Has Trevor White or Mike W or John Parris never mad a bad cue? Maybee yes or maybe not but if an unsatisfied customer started being rude or slating you calling you names, would you be in a rush to re-fund or repair it?
My advice to the guy who made the original complaint is be nice, people often respond better to politness rather than outright character assasination.
The best cue maker in the world is without doubt a tree...keep smiling and happy christmas, good will to all cue makers and peace on earth
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(Oh shut up! People like you and all your BS are the ones that let people like Keith get away with it. Maybe you should read into it a little more and notice he did do it nicely and politely. Get your facts right before you jump on here giving the "Keith Almighty" speach. Good riddance I say!
Peace on Earth! My A$$!)
THATS A BIT HARSH SPUD!
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Just spent quite some time finishing up the whole thread...been busy with work lately and haven't had time to drop by TSF, and suddenly BOOM! Goes the dynamite eh?
I completely agree with nam1977's post on mods deleting certain posts/threads, No offense but I honestly think it's quite retarded to do so. What's the point of censoring it? We would never know the truth! The whole purpose of a forum is for people from all over the world to come together and have discussions on topics of similar interests. The mods here really have to loosen up on that part. Unless it's posts calling other people f**ktards or something, I really think you should leave it out in the open. What you guys really need to understand is, all posts matter especially to people like me from overseas! Overseas buyers such as myself don't have the luxury of just driving down to our nearest cue maker, there's no such person from where I live! I don't have access to many handmade cues up close and personal either, and many of us outside the UK are on the same boat. Before I joined this forum, I couldn't even name 3 decent cue makers, but now I'm more than able to come up with more than 10 names on the top of my head. All we overseas buyers have are information we can gather on the web before putting money into ordering a handmade cue. As we all know, cue making isn't exactly a mass-producing industry, and not a lot of cue makers have a website (hint hint Trevor ), which makes it even tougher for us to figure out what their cues are like.
What's happened to stephen23 is very unfortunate, but what's done is done eh? Sh!t happens. If Keith Auld is really being such a t**t, it's thanks to stephen23 willing to come on to this forum, post up pictures, kept us updated with his cue status, that we now know who to avoid in the future, and what to do/advice if this unfortunate incident happened to us or someone we know. In fact I would urge everyone who's got such similar issues to come on here to post your problems, and hopefully back it up with evidence such as photos or conversation histories. We've got Photoshop experts such as totlxtc who would easily be able to recognize if the picture's been rigged or not, and dealers such as Andrew or cue makers Mike and Trevor who would be able to put in a word of advice on what to do.
@ 1lawyer: Are you saying you would have acted differently if it had happened to you? I don't think anyone here is picking on Keith's health issues, but on his integrity and conduct, and who's to say he's really sick as he claims? Can YOU prove it? It's not exactly a stroll in the park for people like stephen23 and me who live thousands of miles away from UK do deal with a messed up situation such as this. I'd like to see how you'd handle a similar situation if you've ordered and bought something from overseas and the seller does a number on you. And please read through ALL the related posts before trying to call people "loosers", and please learn how to spell .
What I'm curious about is, Keith Auld obviously knows about this thread, and it's been floating around for quite some time now, so why hasn't he even attempted to clarify the situation from his side of the story? If he is indeed really sick, he could easily get in touch with someone who knows him personally to clear all this up. The cue making industry is pretty small afterall, words would easily travel around. Come on Keith, if you're reading this, jump online and have a go, let's see what you've got to say for yourself.
Oh yeah, if a tree COULD make cues, I'd plant it in my backyard and people like Parris and Wooldridge would be out of business! Tree hippies these days, sheeeesh.......
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Originally Posted by 1lawyer View PostGood grief what a bunch of loosers picking on a sick man...why are you all so keen to stick the boot in to Kieth Auld? Has Trevor White or Mike W or John Parris never mad a bad cue? Maybee yes or maybe not but if an unsatisfied customer started being rude or slating you calling you names, would you be in a rush to re-fund or repair it?
My advice to the guy who made the original complaint is be nice, people often respond better to politness rather than outright character assasination.
The best cue maker in the world is without doubt a tree...keep smiling and happy christmas, good will to all cue makers and peace on earth
do you there is one thing called RESPECT???
I wouldn't make a word at TSF on Keith if he did not "play me"
I have sent him the cue but he dun recieve it because custom has charge on it!!
I have told him to pay the charge and deduct it from the total of my refund and that's how simple is it but he told me about the creditors and liquidator's which was totally RIDICULOUS!!!! Then he said what I have posted on TST DOES NOT SHOW RESPECT to him so he will make my life miserable by doing things on a HARD way to me. He will ask Royal Post to SEND IT BACK TO ME and I have to post it by DHL/UPS(which cost A LOT MORE) to him again but I HAVEN"T GOT THE CUE YET!!!
what a good experience!!
I dun mind you make a cue that does not suit me but I just can't stand for what he did to me. I have paid him immidiately in full payment after I made the order that shows I am 100% into him but what I got is a 7 months nightmare which still never end.
Keith, what you want from me? Do I need to send you a pic with my knees on ground and carry a board which wrote"SORRY Keith, I am wrong, you are the best cuemaker in the universe and your cue was the best I have got in my life and everyone should buy cues from you. I should't have posted pics of the very first bad cues in your entire cue making life and make ppl say bad things to ruin your reputation. You should be praise!!!"
If I can get the refund straightaway, I would do do!!
Those are my hard earn money
I dunno what to say right now, Keith for GOD SAKE please let me go!
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Originally Posted by spartacus_ck View PostI completely agree with nam1977's post on mods deleting certain posts/threads, No offense but I honestly think it's quite retarded to do so. What's the point of censoring it? We would never know the truth! The whole purpose of a forum is for people from all over the world to come together and have discussions on topics of similar interests. The mods here really have to loosen up on that part. Unless it's posts calling other people f**ktards or something, I really think you should leave it out in the open. What you guys really need to understand is, all posts matter especially to people like me from overseas!
We're certainly not out to censor informative content. Why would we be? We might challenge uninformed or unjustified criticism since that helps no one and could even be libellous, but that's all.
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Originally Posted by Robert602 View PostI just want to respond to this since it's not the first time this has been mentioned. I honestly don't know of any posts or threads on cues that have been deleted, I've certainly never deleted or edited (or even locked as far as I recall) any myself and haven't noticed any disappear (though I haven't been reading as much over the past few months). Can anyone think of any specifically?
We're certainly not out to censor informative content. Why would we be? We might challenge uninformed or unjustified criticism since that helps no one and could even be libellous, but that's all.
Originally Posted by atm147iwishi thought you had got a new cue from trevor white, if so hope its nice now go do some practice and let go!!
Should count your blessing Stephen23 dude, a good thing has come out of a bad thing.
Time to not forgive, but maybe forget.
Judging by what everyone is saying about Trevor's cues, people would sell their kidneys for one.
I'm sure Trevor's cue would be worth alot more than what you could've ended with.
Now go and become the next Dinh Juin Hui.
I would if I could:snooker:
Peace.
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