Which cloth?

[ADR147]

So from what i understand there are 3 types of 6811
1)tournament
2)gold
3)silver

right?

option 1 is the one to go for.

[Z-E-N-I-T]

And where can I get the 6811 tournament cloth? I tried google but nothing specific. Just loads of sites writing about the change from gold to tournament or whatever and the only site I found that is actually selling it is this: http://www.bbbilliards.co.uk/product.php?prod=630 and that doesn't seem like the tournament model...
Thx

[ADR147]

i could in theory supply it if i was not such a lazy bu66er!

[Z-E-N-I-T]

Hehe... well thanks Andrew... This got time... I'm just asking as I like to compare prizes first. We'll see, when i have the money I'll let you know and you decide whether you will be lazy or not .

[ADR147]

well in theory i will beat any price you find, you might have to wait a while though!

[oselifer]

well in theory i will beat any price you find, you might have to wait a while though!

Could you check if the 6811 Select is for sale?
And a possible price for it?

[cueman]

Has anybody played on both makes of cloth Strachen/Hainsworth?

For a suitable time to be able to say wich is the better cloth?

We at our club have 8 tables and they'll be needing refitting this summer, at least 4 of them.

We play on Strachen gold at the moment, whats the Hainsworth match like in comparrison? How hardy are both types of cloth if you where to compare them?

Is it worth changing from one to the other?

What we want is, as much speed as possible and a cloth that will last at least 10 years.

No! seriously now, speed and as much wear time as possible.

Anybody got any real idea?

Thanks

Brian.

My club used to have the gold cloths fitted and as I do the table maintenance I should know better than most of how the cloths last and perform. I say used to because over the past 6 months we now have the Hainsworth cloths fitted. Apparantly they are easier to fit, according to the guy who fits the cloths. IMO they are better to play on too, they seem faster and more responsive to spin, and the tables that were first done are still playing well today, 6 months on, not too much wear etc.

The strachan cloths were very hit and miss. Some were decent and lasted over 2 years in some cases, others were slow and not very responsive at all. As the quality seemed to go down I'm glad that we now use the Hainsworth cloths. They are easier to brush and iron, the only problem is the cloth seems finer. The cloth we have is called ultrafine on the box they are delivered in, so probably won't last as long as the strachans, but on the plus side they are faster and more responsive. So the question you need to ask yourself is, do you want quality over durability?

[Mully]

Cueman, is the hainsworth cloth you have fitted at your club the Match cloth or Smart cloth?

[ADR147]

Could you check if the 6811 Select is for sale?
And a possible price for it?

i don't have anything listed for select - i have avaliable WOE 6811 Professional Tournament cloth. £250 delivered. as far as i am aware thats the top cloth.

[moglet]

It seems strange that the Hainsworth cloths for snooker and billiards are in two standards (Match and Smart), it is very worrying that Milliken? Strachan? West Of England? and their No 10 and whatever variant of 6811 has become so vague, to the point where you are not sure what you may be purchasing. It is a shame, too, that these "uncertain" cloths from a mill that used to produce quality cloth until it was acquired by an American company, are no longer reliable and not what you could expect from the original mill's production standards.

[cueman]

Cueman, is the hainsworth cloth you have fitted at your club the Match cloth or Smart cloth?

I'm not sure but guessing from the price it would be the match, as I said before, the only thing it said on the label on the box it came in was ultrafine, I guess from that name it must be their best cloth. I think it was around £250 but the club has a deal with the fitters so its cheaper than having it done for private use. Plays very consistantly too, not the average club table cloth.

[moglet]

Hainsworth Prices

The prices direct from the mill to the general public for a full size bed and cushion set including VAT are £171.55 for Smart and £235.78 for Match, there is a delivery charge of £17.63.

[tivoli147]

I have available Strachan No 10 cloths available. These are ex tournament cloths which are like new. Cost new £ 350. These are available for only £ 140 each.

[moglet]

tivoli147,

No 10 cloths are, as in a previous post, fit once and throw away. The quality of these cloths today are not a patch on what they used to be even ten years ago. Attempts have been made to refit these cloths recently as ex tournament cloths, it does not work - all that the buyer can say and perhaps rely on is that the cloth he has bought is second hand and already compromised, yes it may be a No 10 but it will not perform to its original specification.

[tivoli147]

All due respect, but how long have you been fitting snooker cloths? More than the 17 years that I have? I also own a snooker club where a professional plays, and his table is fitted with ex-tournament cloths. For £ 140 you are getting a bargain. Yes, in an ideal world everyone would like a brand new cloth but we all don`t have £ 350 (Cost price to purchase, fitting cost extra) to buy a new No 10 cloth.