I 3D printed some pocket templates

[joelhoekstra]

So I found the drawings that are available in some threads here. They are a little unclear to me as someone who doesn't necessarily know all the current and former governing bodies of snooker.

I had one made off the wpbsa drawings, the one that says there is no undercut on the cushion. These make a very tight pocket so I was looking to make the bs&c (?) templates which seem to allow for 3.5" instead of 3.313" if I recall correctly.

Anyway, they also mention a lower template which I can't seem to find any measurements on, does the lower one only check to ensure the slate drop? Or does it also check the cushion height?

I'd love to get some more measurements and tweak these things a bit more.

Thanks for any help guys!

Joel
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[Terry Davidson]

IBSF is the international governing body for AMATEUR snooker and their templates are used for their world tournaments
B&SCC is the Billiards and Snooker Control Council who ruled snooker and billiards before the IBSF and WPBSA and their templates are no longer official but for my money are the best ones
WPBSA is world governing body for pros and their tables but they do not sell their templates to anyone, only the IBSF does that nowadays.

The lower template is hardly used but does show the pocket slate fall and the cushion shape on entering the pocket.

The golden rule is the pocket opening cannot narrow after the fall which is what happens with some types of tables like Schender and Wiraka.

[joelhoekstra]

Thanks Terry! Appreciate you're knowledge I've come across in all these threads. From what I gather you're somewhat local to me as well. I'm down southern Ontario, between Windsor and London.

Do you have details on the lower template? Mainly how thick it is? I'd love to verify my rubber height.

And so from the drawings I've seen in the threads here, are the b&scc pockets the same as the isbf?

[Terry Davidson]

Thanks Terry! Appreciate you're knowledge I've come across in all these threads. From what I gather you're somewhat local to me as well. I'm down southern Ontario, between Windsor and London.

Do you have details on the lower template? Mainly how thick it is? I'd love to verify my rubber height.

And so from the drawings I've seen in the threads here, are the b&scc pockets the same as the isbf?

I long ago sold off my IBSF templates and don't remember much about the low one. I live in Alma, ON which is just north of Fergus/Elora or about 30kms north of Guelph.

No, the IBSF pockets play a bit tighter than the B&SCC ones. Most Riley tables where the pockets have not been altered were done with B&SCC templates and a lot of players (including myself) prefer the Riley tables for a lot of reasons not only their pockets.

[cascaders]

Joel - I think this is a really interesting approach. It could make templates quite accessible to the home player. Are the files uploaded anywhere, and did you (or anyone) succeed in making the larger ones? I'm in the US, and snooker supplies and expertise can be scarce.

[Christopher Alvey]

Terry or Joel...could you please email me the pocket drawings. It is hard to find anything here in the USA. My email is cralvey1973@gmail.com
Thanks so much.

[Wan T.]

Hi Joel or Terry, Could you please sharing the 3D printing file to me. I been looking to buy the complete set one for long times but it really hard to find. And is starting to see in my country, many installers DIY the thing which make me worry. I need to keep its standard here.

[Wan T.]

Hi Joel or Terry, Could you please sharing the 3D printing file to me. I been looking to buy the complete set one for long times but it really hard to find. And is starting to see in my country, many installers DIY the thing which make me worry. I need to keep its standard here.

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[Omar007]

Hi joel or terry, can you sharing the 3D printing file to me for the templates poket, plzz,
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[Cuetopia]

Hi, I'd really love a copy of the 3d printing files if I may, I own a club and have been in contact with the WPBSA directly - they have no standard for pockets - I have 15 tables which are due new rubbers and french polishing. Looks like I'll get some practice in - they are Riley club tables and they are labelled don the back with 3 3/4 along with the order number and set number. I'm assuming that's the pockets size. They are about 40 years old. So cutting cushions to pockets seems to be a bit of an artisan skill learned back in the 1980's. They are cut manually filed and shaped using a rasp and sandpaper. Obviously the printing the templates can be scaled to any size you like. I'd like to get drawings that work so that I can get a cutting template made from metal that fits over the newly rubbered cushion and allows me to cut back to the template - maybe with a hot wire cutter, possibly a knife, using a jig to make the job repeatable if that makes any sense. I will keep pushing to get a standard published though WBPSA just pointing me at their fitters so far. At least it seems as standard as a football pitch size! email:PaulMartinMSc@gmail.com. I'll let you know how it works out - although cushions are not easy to get at the moment - like so many other things. Paul

[itsnoteasy]

Not sure if you could get 3 3/4 pockets down to template size with just a rerubber. Even getting them down to 3 1/2 needs 1/4 of an inch decrease that's a lot of rubber. You may need new blocks. I should add I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about

[Cuetopia]

I suppose it's a rare situation - I have bought a club with 17 tables - 2 are now spares 15 in use, last one a mystery - The cushion rails are all labelled in marker pen on the back - I assume from Riley directly in the 1980's. Order number xxxx Set 1 (2,3 whatever) of 18 ....then the rail number and 3 3/4 which I assume is the pocket size.. So my assumption is that they were made to that specification for club use. The rubber is cut down in the openings on the pockets so that almost all of the nose is gone and they is some undercut. About 1/4 inch at the fall tapering away in the pocket to nothing. More left on and more evenly cut than this image....https://dynamicbilliard.ca/informati...able-profiles/ . In truth, I think it would be better to make the woodwork so the cushion rubber can be fitted without cutting - would probably need custom pocket brass for that. Back to the 3d printing. I'd really like the drawings for the templates still if anyone could send them to PaulMartinMSc@gmail.com . or even better - post them up on thingiverse. I'll pay a modest amount or donation to a charity for DXF or DWG Autocad files if anyone has them.

[mikee]

Snooker table pockets are cut when the rubber is fitted to the wooden rail or steel blocks ,it’s a specialised job .The WPBSA do have a regulation pocket size ,they just don’t release them to anyone outside their own fitters for tournament tables ,copy’s have been made and quite a few people have them .If you have a snooker club then it would be more beneficial to have a club cut pocket on most of the tables ,and maybe slightly tighter ones on the main match table .

[Sokr]

I want to buy a pocket template for snooker, where can I buy it, or do you sell this template?

[DeanH]

I want to buy a pocket template for snooker, where can I buy it, or do you sell this template?

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