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  • Fake stuff made in China? Come on, Geoff, I can't believe that.
    Originally Posted by Geoff Large View Post
    hi Les , I think you mean 30 oz cloth ?

    Putting any steam or water into wool will expand the fibres , so will in theory make the cloth slower as it is a thicker cloth when damp acting like blotting paper, it will when it is dry shrink because you have wet it then ironed it , as we know wool washed on a hot setting will shrink , and the same applies to wool being wet then ironed on a billiard table .

    A trick that many fitters use around the middle slate fall if they get a hard to fit cloth , they damp the cloth then iron it to shrink out any possible wrinkles. Have a close look on TV around the middle slate fall just before the ball falls , you may notice a differant shade of cloth colour , this is where the fitter has dampened the cloth before ironing it , no 10 is the most difficult cloth to fit around those TV table pocket falls .

    It is true that you get good and bad batches of cloth , I have noticed that some 30oz cloths are thicker than the last batch or thinner if you get what I mean .
    One thing that informs me that a cloth is thinner than the last batch is loose cushion retaining slips .
    You could try inevermissablue's trick and put starch on the cloth which may help keep the nap down , it is something I would not recommend and neither do the cloth manufacturer Strachan. but if he is experiencing good results then you may want to try it on his recommendation though not mine , although he says the table he is using it on has worn cloth on it , not new cloth . I have no problem anyone using starch spray on worn cloth because if it goes pear shaped it was due a recover anyway , spraying it on new cloth and you have bad results would mean recovering a newly clothed table which would hurt you in the pocket.
    A new recover is going to play much slower than worn no nap cloth , so if you are comparing it to the old cloth then you will notice a huge difference in speed .

    My advice is double up on Brushing and ironing , try and wear some of the nap away and keep pressing it flat , if it is over 6 months since the re-cover ,then stretching a bed cloth will also speed the cloth up.
    one more thing , where did you get your cloth from ? there are fake Strachan cloth about made in china.
    Before it was fitted you should always check the cloth has blue embroidered lines down one side with Gold embroidered writing saying Strachan 6811 tournament , also a cloth transfer with Strachan gold tournament 30 oz , and in black ink printing on the underside a roll number and again Strachan tournament printed in .

    Hope above info is of use to you.

    Oh and congrats on Team Canada women's ice hockey winning gold and the men reaching the final today.
    王可

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    • Its been some time since i posted about my new table cleaning regime. In that time i have had quite a few Pm's from people willing to try my method! one guy that tried it was from Vienna and he was over the moon with the results.
      Since my last post regarding this method, i have discovered a few more things which have relevance.

      1. Most table brushes i inspect at various clubs are riddled with dust!
      : This is why i 'lightly vacuum to remove 'surface dust'. (brushing for chalk removal only).

      2. If a table is Starched (only after table re-stretch) this releases trapped nap fibres from grease! fact!
      : This is why i don't advocate the use of a relentless brush'n'iron regime only! (this is what traps the nap into grease from fingers etc).

      3. Try not to use dirty sets of balls as this promotes grease build up!

      4. The use of starch needs only to be repeated every 3 months or so.

      This is the real deal guys!!!
      Cheap and Cheerful! 😄
      https://wpbsa.com/coaches/simon-seabridge/

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      • So vacuum the brush.
        王可

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        • Hi Philip. Thanks for pointing out the obvious! But its suprising how many people just brush and iron! Allowing this dust to build up in their table brush! As previously mentioned the table brush is only for chalk removal! Brushing surface dust down is a big no no. As it will only bellow up into the air and later settle back down again not to mention clogging up into the brush!
          Cheap and Cheerful! 😄
          https://wpbsa.com/coaches/simon-seabridge/

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          • after brushing the table, I brush the brush - as far away from the table as possible
            usually just with my hands or run the brush on a door edge, as long as the brush is kept clean this does not cover too much with dust (my hands are freshly cleaned so are not oily or dirty)
            now if the brush is heavily contaminated, maybe vacuum first; I don't vacuum my table(s), but could take home and use the home vacuum, ?
            Up the TSF! :snooker:

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            • If you thoroughly vacuum your table brush and only lightly vacuum your table(s) each week, provided they are kept covered.yyou would only ever need your table brush for chalk dust only.
              Cheap and Cheerful! 😄
              https://wpbsa.com/coaches/simon-seabridge/

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              • Table maintenance

                no one covers the tables at the end of the night
                there is an old little hand held vacuum in the snooker room but it has the sucking power of a knat.
                but considering all the above the tables are pretty dust free and tidy
                Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                • Ok. Well please take this as constructive...
                  Any tables that are not kept covered when not in use, will accumulate dust! as its airborne! So your handheld vacuum sounds perfect as you would only need to vacuum them as lightly as possible. Using any sort of pressure could interfere with the filler in the slate joins, so minimal suction is the key. If your vacuum has a beater bar this also needs to be disabled as it will cause premature ware of the cloth.
                  I hate to refer to tv tournaments for examples. Although, when the players go out for intervals, the fitters or whoever always come out and brush the tables. This isn't dust that they're brushing out, its only chalk! Now i bet you that their brushes are alot cleaner than anyone whos not vacuuming or covering their tables.
                  Vacuuming is also important for keeping the pocket assembly clean. Something else that gets overlooked.

                  If anyone would like a copy of my Table Cleaning Method, Please PM me and i will glady send it your way! :-)
                  Cheap and Cheerful! 😄
                  https://wpbsa.com/coaches/simon-seabridge/

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                  • Originally Posted by Omehenk View Post
                    Sorry for this off-topic reply, but the best thing i ever saw on a snooker table was that they used Tipp-Ex to mark the colour spots!
                    I use little stickers that are yellow, 500 for 2 dollars, 3/16 inch purchased off shelf at staples, local ppns store.
                    I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!:snooker:

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                    • Originally Posted by biggus stickus View Post
                      I have a question about table ironing. I dont really want to spend 200 pound or so on a table iron, are there any other ways to perhaps use a normal iron or similar?
                      I am with you on that, price to high, I put 2 layers of heavy duty foil over my clothing iron, secured it with a little duct tape, works very well, make sure your iron is bone dry first. Holes in the iron leave marks on table so you need the foil.
                      I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!:snooker:

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                      • Very good Idea, also note, measure your spot locations and mark using a lead pencil, put your sticky dots on, dont mark the bulk line, you will have to tighten your cloth, this way there is no problems. Just tighten, measure and sticker over your new pencil marks. And if you need to move, your cloth will still be good. Cheers,
                        ntioned is this i have recently discovered. Using sticky white labels which have been hole punched, make very good alternatives to the conventional black spots used on Snooker tables. When punched they are about 5-6mm in diameter. Most importantly once the ball has been spotted it hardly ever rolls off its spot, which in club situations will help to lessen the need for anyone to "bang" the ball onto the spot! Most of all no more blacks jumping out of the pit they were banged into when you're going into the pack with pace!

                        Hope this helps!!! :snooker: :snooker: :snooker:[/QUOTE]
                        I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!:snooker:

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                        • Do not use an iron where the table slate was filled with wax, not a good idea, especially if he leveled some problem areas with wax as well. Cheers
                          Originally Posted by edemrulez View Post
                          Hi there!

                          About ironing: after how many game-hour do you advised to iron the cloth? is this a fix number or this depends only on the speed of the cloth?
                          I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!:snooker:

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                          • [QUOTE=DeanH;789882]no one covers the tables at the end of the night

                            I always cover my table after I have finished with it. I imagine most owners do.
                            王可

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                            • Table maintenance

                              mines always covered when not in use takes seconds to do, the fitted peradon cover makes it too simple not to be lazy.

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                              • Originally Posted by thommo335 View Post
                                mines always covered when not in use takes seconds to do, the fitted peradon cover makes it too simple not to be lazy.
                                That's a bit up market for me. Mine for the big table at my house is just a 2.5 x 4.3 metre plastic sheet. As much as anything like a tent groundsheet. Very tough and completely flexible. Does the job very well. On the little table I have, in China, it is a tailored cover out of a lightweight nylon with elasticated corners. Very light and easy.
                                王可

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