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  • EXCLUSIVE SS Article 6 - WPBSA attacked by Forum posters

    You may remember this article from last month - Snooker Scene Article about TSF, this is the follow up article in the December edition of Snooker Scene.

    October Snooker Scene’s Glasgow Notebook item, Website Journos (page 17), has brought an avalanche of criticism down on the WPBSA for its refusal to grant media accreditation and press facilities to Susan Jardine, an experienced freelance, who wanted to report the Grand Prix for TheSnookerForum.com, a valuable and widely read website (writes Clive Everton).


    This refusal has been taken as an attempt to disadvantage an independent website in favour of the WPBSA’s own www (world’s worst website, some say) worldsnooker.com.


    Snooker is desperate for press, radio and any other form of coverage and it is the duty of the governing body of professional snooker to encourage this.


    Instead, it seems, it wants to make it as difficult as possible for snooker websites other than its own to report events, perhaps partly through a doomed and paranoid policy of trying to control the flow of information and comment.


    Nor is WPBSA’s policy consistent.


    At the Grand Prix, representatives of 110sport, who manage players but also have a website of longstanding, were able to come and go as they pleased; Janie Watkins of Global Snooker, another leading snooker website, was present for some of the nine days duration despite not “regularly reporting the snooker on radio or TV during the event” – the grounds of which Ms Jardine was excluded.


    All websites demonstrating a serious interest in snooker should be welcomed. Snooker Forum, for instance, has 13,000 members who like its menu of news, features and – in the manner of a true forum – the opportunity it affords to exchange views.


    Increasingly – and particularly outside Britain – websites are becoming the only source of daily snooker information. Even within the UK most newspapers rely on of the Press Association frequently incompetent coverage (see Snooker Scene November page 18) is derived most of the time from a combination of worldsnooker.com and a non-expert watching television in PA’s office.


    One Snooker Forum member from Latvia posted: “Glad Snooker Scene wrote about this. Maybe [I’m] not surprised as World Snooker seems to take quite a lot of interesting decisions. Rather it was like an emotion when you get slapped in your face unexpectedly. As someone far away from main snooker scenes I rely on the internet.”


    Terry Davidson posted his agreement from Canada: “I depend on the internet and Snooker Scene for all my snooker coverage and anything done to increase that would only benefit snooker as a whole. Oh, by the way WPBSA, I never even look at your website as I find it slow and also a biased self-promotion website with no balance.”


    A New Zealand poster chimed in: “The WPBSA’s reasoning for declining access is typical of their complete inability to understand and take advantage of the vital role the internet can play in promoting and growing a sport around the world. I really think someone should start to compile a list of the ridiculous blunders the WPBSA is making and send it in a letter to all the main tour players when it comes time to vote on board members. Maybe then we would finally see a decent turnout for voting and a change for the better within the sport.”


    Dantuck7 posted from Bedford: “It does show the governing body is killing the sport from within,” while Noel from Toronto said: “This is what happens when decision makers do not live in the new, real world.”


    BrooklynCueless, an English junior member, wrote: “I can’t say I know enough to understand how the WPBSA operates but there have been many examples of players, fans, advertisers, sports writers etc to make it look like it’s all them v us….In regard to publicity it feels like the WPBSA has no interest in making money for the sport. To block free speech/ outside opinions isn’t going to be an improvement to their image.”


    Monique posted from Brussels:”The only way to make sense of WPBSA refusing such accreditations is them trying to stay in total control at all cost, including the death of the game.”


    And it is not as if worldsnooker.com is well regarded. Erwan BZH posted from Klonakilty, Ireland: “Worldsnooker.com must be one of the worst websites I have ever encountered. Externally, the design is not bad but they have hundreds of glitches and bugs that just annoy the users. They should clean their doormat before slamming the door at people well dedicated to the game”

  • #2
    I must just make one small correction to this.
    I was not present at all during the Grand Prix. I did not get within 100 miles of Glasgow although I do have full accreditation.
    Janie Watkins
    On Q Promotions / South West Snooker Academy
    All views are my own and in no way represent On Q or the Academy

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    • #3
      Originally Posted by globalsnooker View Post
      I must just make one small correction to this.
      I was not present at all during the Grand Prix. I did not get within 100 miles of Glasgow although I do have full accreditation.
      Thats quite a big correction

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by globalsnooker View Post
        I must just make one small correction to this.
        I was not present at all during the Grand Prix. I did not get within 100 miles of Glasgow although I do have full accreditation.
        And you are posting now from the world amateur championship in India. I think that's a decent enough example of time and effort you put in!!

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        • #5
          thats a damning article of World Snooker and i agree with it entierly.

          people might think Clive has a hidden agenda to slag them off but you cant disguise whats true or not and thats true.

          a fan can go to a tournament Talk to a player and post it here. Susan Jardine attempted to do it through the proper channels and got thrown out.thats disgraceful behavior from this poor excuse for a Governing body......they cant govern ****.

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by dantuck_7 View Post
            And you are posting now from the world amateur championship in India. I think that's a decent enough example of time and effort you put in!!
            thanks, it's appreciated. It's 2am here and well past my bedtime - just a quick check round that I'm not sharing my room tonight with unwanted insects and then off for some kip ahead of tomorrow's final.
            Janie Watkins
            On Q Promotions / South West Snooker Academy
            All views are my own and in no way represent On Q or the Academy

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            • #7
              Telford uk championship

              Hi Guys, as many readers on TSF will know we are putting on legends events next year. One of these in in Telford at the International Centre. As part of our publicity we have had flyers printed for distribution during the championship where snooker fans will descend on Telford. This is a normal marketing strategy and if you go into any arena or theatre you will see flyers advertising fortncoming events. World Snooker have today banned any flyers for Snooker Legends within the whole of the International Arena Complex, despite no objections from the arena itself. Please also bear in mind my event is in May 2010 and the Championships early december, 6 months before? What exactly are they frightened off? The shambles that is World Snooker has fallen out and alienated most members of TSF, journalists, snooker scene, 110 sport, us and the world series.... who next Rodney? there's not many left is there? My own exhibitions are there to give some work to Alex Higgins, Cliff T, Jimmy, John P and John Virgo, people who helped make snooker what it is today, hang your head in shame walker or have i miss-spelt your name by one letter!!

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              • #8
                Oh how they really want to up the profile of the game - NOT! Not if they have nothing to do with the event - probably not earning anything from it - and God forbid some players might earn a few bob!!

                And just to add - how does that make the game look in the eyes of the venue. The game will be a laughing stock once again due to petty, unprofessional behaviour.
                Why cannot the Governing bodies, not only the WSA, realise that the only way the game is going to continue and become the world class sport it should be, is by constant media and promotional attention no matter who is providing it.
                If the Governing bodies, and I mean all of them, spent more time trying to promote the game in schools, local clubs in the press and media they perhaps would have less time to be criticising other people who are trying to do just that.
                Why is there no promotional material sent out to the hundreds of clubs to get Joe Public involved - perhaps they're frightened of them too!!
                Last edited by ferret; 24 November 2009, 10:03 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by JasonFrancis View Post
                  hang your head in shame walker or have i miss-spelt your name by one letter!!

                  Yes Jason, I think it may be Falker?



                  =o|

                  Noel

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                  • #10
                    typical of the WPBSA - more corrupt than mayor quimby

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                    • #11
                      With the list of WPBSA blunders thriving over increasy number of pages I just hope the players (whose association it actually is) will go to the next meeting and vote the poor old executive out of office.

                      For Jason, I could not have thought of more reasonable venue as the UK Champs to advertise for the legends. Why this should collide with the interests of the governing body only Sir Walker will know. Just as was the case with the press accredition issue.

                      To say something positive, I like the quotes Clive has taken from here. They speak for themselves
                      Last edited by miscuehamburg; 24 November 2009, 10:54 PM.
                      Ten reds and not a colour...

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by JasonFrancis View Post
                        World Snooker have today banned any flyers for Snooker Legends within the whole of the International Arena Complex... Rodney?
                        Yup that must be Rodney on patrol tooting his own horn!

                        [ worth every penny he's paid, he is ]







                        =o)

                        Noel
                        Last edited by noel; 25 November 2009, 12:51 AM.

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                        • #13
                          the WSA are idiots ....banning flyers why ?

                          didnt they ban selling snooker scene once maybee they stil banned ummmmm i think yes after this article for life lol

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                          • #14
                            distribute the flyers anyway. its a free country.
                            https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/adr147

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by ADR147 View Post
                              distribute the flyers anyway. its a free country.
                              They probably have rented every square inch of the International Centre including the concessions and parking lot and walkways out to the road
                              and so can limit use of that space.

                              I suggested to a friend yesterday that if any of the "Legends" such as Jimmy or Alex or Cliff or John actually appeared and stood out by the road autographing and handing out the flyers, since they were forbidden to do so at the rented venue, it would get an enormous amount of in-person and national media attention.
                              Advertising that is priceless.


                              =o)

                              Noel

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