how to find vision centre?

[bestof19snooker]

Try moving your right foot (if you are right handed) either a bit to the right or left and see if that affects your results. Which way is the cue pointing? To the left of the line or to the right?

thank you, i did try this again. it has to do with my right leg however it is not abit to the left or right but it is my right foot angle. i tried today and if i turn my right foot inwards the cue butt is much better online, however i am not sure if this is the fix yet and yeah it feels very uncomfortable.
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i spent lots of time today playing up and down but while standing up and lining up the shot i can see that i was wrong , even without touching the cue to chin or even before getting down i am already offline.
i am always lining up my objects to the left of the pocket and that is why when i get down the cue butt is offline towards left side.
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so basically now i know that i cannot lineup my shots correctly.

tired playing turning my right foot 45 degree and played for 1 year = cue butt still offline
i normally put my right foot pointing straight on line of aim = cue butt still offline

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basically i put the middle of my right foot on line of aim. i also avoided walking in to see if it makes any difference , but now i am sure that even before walking in i am not even lining up my shots correctly.

a youtube video shows , put your right foot heel on line of aim. ( does it matter, when i line up my shots i concentrate putting middle of my right foot on line of aim)
dont know if putting the heel on line of aim makes a difference ?
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i have tried
boxing stance
square stance
lining up with middle of my body
lining up with right foot on line of aim
but i am always lining up object balls to the left of pocket, even before walking in


Please! I need some help

Thank you

[Siz]

Do not worry about where your vision centre is.

When you are standing behind the shot, move your head from side to side (only a couple of cm) until the shot 'looks right'. This may take some practice until you get to recognise what 'looks right' looks like! Then get down to the shot focusing on maintaining this good sighting. Once you are down on the shot, and have looked back up to the object ball, see if the shot still looks right. If not, move you head a cm or two either way until it is looks right again.

Keep doing this until your body has learned to get the eyes in the right place for each shot. And until you have got out of the habit of trying to micro-manage where everything should go and when it should go there.

BTW, whereabouts on your chin your cue runs does not determine where your vision centre is in relation to the shot. For example, you can have the cue dead centre but then tilt your head to one side to move the vision centre (like Neil Robertson). But as I said, this is something that the body will do automatically if left to its own devices.

[bestof19snooker]

Do not worry about where your vision centre is.

When you are standing behind the shot, move your head from side to side (only a couple of cm) until the shot 'looks right'. This may take some practice until you get to recognise what 'looks right' looks like! Then get down to the shot focusing on maintaining this good sighting. Once you are down on the shot, and have looked back up to the object ball, see if the shot still looks right. If not, move you head a cm or two either way until it is looks right again.

Keep doing this until your body has learned to get the eyes in the right place for each shot. And until you have got out of the habit of trying to micro-manage where everything should go and when it should go there.

BTW, whereabouts on your chin your cue runs does not determine where your vision centre is in relation to the shot. For example, you can have the cue dead centre but then tilt your head to one side to move the vision centre (like Neil Robertson). But as I said, this is something that the body will do automatically if left to its own devices.

tnx but maybe i have been using center chin for so long that now when i move my head side to side, or tilt or turn , i no longer can see a difference
when i play long straight blue and put white on yellows spot i miss to left of pocket
and
when i play long straight blue and put white on green spot i miss to right of pocket

i use spotted white and no spins there when i play stop shot. also if it was putting side issue , i would have missed the blue to same side of pocket


every part of the tecnique is solid and as text books.
example:
i sight while standing, head does not move while getting down
foot, head, right arm all the way to shoulder on line
no movement while getting down
bring chest to cue
front pause, features, back pause , slow backswing , smooth delivery
grip hand fine

i just blame my aiming specially not sure about my vision centre
any idea?
tnx

[bestof19snooker]

check https://sightrightcuesports.com/
or this video (no tools required at all) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKoMZrg1MAg ... it's an older video .. but it gets to the point ;-)

i tired the rest method to find vision centre, but seems i have been playing with center chin for years that when i move my head side to side, tilt, or turn i cannot see any changes
ofcourse if i do extream i will be off

does sightright help fiding vision center?

[bestof19snooker]

I wouldn't get too worried about all this. Just try the cue in different positions and see which position makes you miss less shots. Working out dominant eye is pretty straightforward, all you need is the ability to open and close your eyes. Once you know that, try having the cue at different offsets from the centre of your chin until you start potting more consistently. After that it's a matter of playing thousands of shots so that you can pick out the angle automatically. There isn't really a shortcut. I used to think I was missing pots because of a sighting or aiming problem, but it was just that I wasn't playing enough. Once I went from playing once a week to 2 or 3 times a week I stopped missing as much.

i got a question from you!

i already know that i am right eye dominant as i stretch my arms and form a hole with hands and look at an object and touch the hands to face while look at the object, or using the other method to point the finger and close one eye and see if the object moves or not.
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i found that i am right eye dominant but my cue is in centre chin and my head is straight
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do you think trying the pen method works to find the vision center?
watched Barry Starks video , how to find the correct chin position using a pen

1: hold a pen vertical and point to an object
2: while the pen is still pointing to the object
3: bring the pen towards the face/chin and see where the pen touches the chin
result: that would be your chin position

so does this work?

A: normally i play with center chin position
B: i am right eye dominant
C: while standing i can clearly see in a video that the line of aim goes through right chin
D: while down that line of aim is in the middle of my chin
E: when i try the pen method, the pen hits my right chin


any idea?
tnx

[bestof19snooker]

Do not worry about where your vision centre is.

When you are standing behind the shot, move your head from side to side (only a couple of cm) until the shot 'looks right'. This may take some practice until you get to recognise what 'looks right' looks like! Then get down to the shot focusing on maintaining this good sighting. Once you are down on the shot, and have looked back up to the object ball, see if the shot still looks right. If not, move you head a cm or two either way until it is looks right again.

Keep doing this until your body has learned to get the eyes in the right place for each shot. And until you have got out of the habit of trying to micro-manage where everything should go and when it should go there.

BTW, whereabouts on your chin your cue runs does not determine where your vision centre is in relation to the shot. For example, you can have the cue dead centre but then tilt your head to one side to move the vision centre (like Neil Robertson). But as I said, this is something that the body will do automatically if left to its own devices.

but my head is straight when down