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  • #16
    I'm right handed and sight with my dominant left eye right above the cue.

    What really makes me play better is the act of turning my head and body to favour my dominant left eye while finding and focussing on the contact point on the object ball while standing up behind the shot,
    the contact point not just the object ball itself.
    This makes me stand up behind the shot already in my natural boxer stance position (left foot in front of right foot) so I just step forward without twisting as I go down and the line of aim is therefore always under my natural sighting eye. The contact point stays in my short term memory so is therefore easy to find again after I have focussed on the cue ball and addresse the tip of my cue to it. If you just look at the object ball while standing up behind the shot you'll end up looking for the contact point when you're down in your stance but positioned very slightly in the wrong place and very slightly means missing by a wide margin.

    So as not to mess about with dominant eye theory just stand up behind the shot in your natural stance position and see if that improves your accuracy, if it doesn't then that's just another thing to forget about.

    Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
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    • #17
      Originally Posted by ebonynivory View Post
      It’s a fascinating question. May I ask have you been playing for a while or are you relatively new to the game? Regardless there are some good videos on YouTube on how the pros do it. But as mentioned by itsnoteasy you have to find out what works for you. I know that doesn’t answer your question, however it’s a lot of practice and like Michael Holt mentions in his videos it’s probably better for a player to simplify what they are doing and find something repeatable. Than be in the circle of doom for improvement. As you can see with the pros. There isn’t one way of playing but they have found something repeatable for their own game.
      thank you for your reply.
      i have been playing like 8 years now. seen like 5 different coaches in the past, some of them few sessions, and with some of them had 1 week camp. i guess i was not lucky enough as they couldnt find the problem or they skipped the basics as they most were working on break building, mental game side, safety etc.

      anyways back to the problem:
      since i have last posted, i tried my best to lock my eyes on object ball as i was getting down, and until i am totally bend, and chin has touched the cue and i am settled i tried not to look at the cue ball and alignment is 50% improved. and i dont lean much to the right.

      Previously, as my chin was about to touch the cue, i was switching my eyes from object ball to the cue, and i think it made my cue go offline.

      ________________

      the other problem that i found after filming my self is that, while standing up 90% of the time, i cannot lineup shots properly
      i put long straight blue, and i tried lining up with boxing style, sqaure stance. lining up with chin, nose, belly button . tried holding the cue straight and the butt of the cue touching the belly button. stood abit right to the line of aim, stood abit to the left of line of aim.
      tried pointing the right foot straight , tried turning to the right.
      i also tried to hold the cue butt on my side (like neil robertson)
      i also tried standing up way behind , like neil robertson , but yeah still cannot line up shots properly i would say 90% of the time.
      when i am down i fish, atleast looking at the object ball all the way to address position has decreased the fishing.

      TODAY:
      1: i tried to hold the cue butt next to my heap like neil roberson, but the butt seems offline to my right although the cue tip is behind cueball.
      2:i tried to hold the cue butt touching the belling button, by doing this my body also turned abit to the right, but now the butt of the is offline to the left

      i think this is where i was offline all the time and i never knew it
      wondering none of these coaches saw it waste of money, and waste of time all these years
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      (bought like 3 laser which could be attached to the cue from ebay) but none of those worked, whenever i recieved them, had to shop everywhere to find the battery, but i guess none are working) i was thinking to get those laser pointer which could be attached to the cue, to exactly find the "sweet spot" where i can line up the best.




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      • #18
        Originally Posted by vmax View Post
        I'm right handed and sight with my dominant left eye right above the cue.

        What really makes me play better is the act of turning my head and body to favour my dominant left eye while finding and focussing on the contact point on the object ball while standing up behind the shot,
        the contact point not just the object ball itself.
        This makes me stand up behind the shot already in my natural boxer stance position (left foot in front of right foot) so I just step forward without twisting as I go down and the line of aim is therefore always under my natural sighting eye. The contact point stays in my short term memory so is therefore easy to find again after I have focussed on the cue ball and addresse the tip of my cue to it. If you just look at the object ball while standing up behind the shot you'll end up looking for the contact point when you're down in your stance but positioned very slightly in the wrong place and very slightly means missing by a wide margin.

        So as not to mess about with dominant eye theory just stand up behind the shot in your natural stance position and see if that improves your accuracy, if it doesn't then that's just another thing to forget about.
        i think you have good knowledge, please read my reply to "ebonynivory"

        i mentioned there that when i hold the cue butt (while standing to lineup the shot ) next to my heap i am facing abit to the left (and the cue butt is offline to the right

        , but when i hold the cue butt on my belly button face turns to the right. and the cue butt is offline to the left

        tried boxing style, sqaure stance, standing abit to the right of line of aim, standing abit to the left of line of aim. turning the right foot to the right, hodling it straight ( as you mentioned, the foot anchor is online of aim when turning or straight , so no issue there )

        something is off , i mean with a straight long blue i cannot lineup 90% of the time and when i am down its off and i do fishing to correct myself. however in the past few days i tried to lock my eyes on objectball until i get down and until the touch is touched to the cue and then i look at the cue ball, and it has reduced my fishing alittle bit . where as before i was switching my eyes to the cueball even before touching my chin to the cue.

        i think my body position is not in the right position while lining up , all these years ;( no wonder i cannot improve

        thank you alot for your reply and sharing your experience, it may mean nothing for others but for my a snooker lover means alot

        tnx

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        • #19
          (ignore the pictures- deleted)
          although on a straight line i find it easy to lineup, but when there is for example: a long straight blue i cannot lineup 90% of the time, and when i am down i am leaning abit to the right most of the time.

          so when there is no ball and there is a reference line i think i find it easier to lineup
          Last edited by mrsnooker000; Today, 11:41 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally Posted by mrsnooker000 View Post
            please read my reply to "ebonynivory"
            The pictures you're posted don't show you in your stance position and on each one the cue isn't lined up straight on the line of the rail and the cushion..

            If this is how you see a straight line then I'm afraid that your hand eye co-ordination is poor and snooker isn't your game, sorry but I can't help.
            Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
            but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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            • #21
              Everyone sees straight differently, it doesn't matter. To find your line you have to stand square to the shot and move a a bit side to side until it looks straight to you, that's it.
              As vmax says, you have to put your cue on that line (I don't really understand those pictures, what are they meant to be showing)
              How to you get on playing the cue ball up and down the spots, or cueing along the baulk line.
              If you get down along the baulk line with tip in the middle of it, if you then drop the butt down and stand up carefully, is your butt bang on the line as well. You cant really get anywhere until you can at least get both ends of your cue near enough bang on that line. You can be the straightest cuesist in the world but if the butt and tip are across the line the games is very hard if not impossible.
              I can't believe a coach didn't sort that out in the first ten minutes. If you can get in touch with Chris Small, he'll sort you out.
              This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
              https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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              • #22
                Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                Everyone sees straight differently, it doesn't matter. To find your line you have to stand square to the shot and move a a bit side to side until it looks straight to you, that's it.
                As vmax says, you have to put your cue on that line (I don't really understand those pictures, what are they meant to be showing)
                How to you get on playing the cue ball up and down the spots, or cueing along the baulk line.
                If you get down along the baulk line with tip in the middle of it, if you then drop the butt down and stand up carefully, is your butt bang on the line as well. You cant really get anywhere until you can at least get both ends of your cue near enough bang on that line. You can be the straightest cuesist in the world but if the butt and tip are across the line the games is very hard if not impossible.
                I can't believe a coach didn't sort that out in the first ten minutes. If you can get in touch with Chris Small, he'll sort you out.
                thank you , how do i contact chris small?

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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by vmax View Post

                  The pictures you're posted don't show you in your stance position and on each one the cue isn't lined up straight on the line of the rail and the cushion..

                  If this is how you see a straight line then I'm afraid that your hand eye co-ordination is poor and snooker isn't your game, sorry but I can't help.
                  ignore the pictures, someone took it in the club and i just posted, and it was just standing pictures because as i said i cannot lineup while standing

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                  • #24
                    Originally Posted by mrsnooker000 View Post

                    thank you , how do i contact chris small?
                    Pretty sure if you type in Chris small snooker coach something will pop up.
                    where about are you roughly?
                    This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                    https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post

                      Pretty sure if you type in Chris small snooker coach something will pop up.
                      where about are you roughly?
                      oh you meant google it, thank you i will try to find him

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                      • #26
                        Originally Posted by mrsnooker000 View Post

                        oh you meant google it, thank you i will try to find him
                        https://www.chrissmallsnookercoaching.co.uk/
                        This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                        https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                        • #27
                          Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                          Everyone sees straight differently, it doesn't matter. To find your line you have to stand square to the shot and move a a bit side to side until it looks straight to you, that's it.
                          As vmax says, you have to put your cue on that line (I don't really understand those pictures, what are they meant to be showing)
                          How to you get on playing the cue ball up and down the spots, or cueing along the baulk line.
                          If you get down along the baulk line with tip in the middle of it, if you then drop the butt down and stand up carefully, is your butt bang on the line as well. You cant really get anywhere until you can at least get both ends of your cue near enough bang on that line. You can be the straightest cuesist in the world but if the butt and tip are across the line the games is very hard if not impossible.
                          I can't believe a coach didn't sort that out in the first ten minutes. If you can get in touch with Chris Small, he'll sort you out.
                          yeah i guess those pictures were meaningless, i deleted them, someone took it in the club so i posted.
                          and to answer your question, yes i can put my cue on baulk line straight when there are no balls. but when balls comes to play i cannot lineup. even if i put the cueball on yellow spot to pot it in far corner pocket, when i put the cue tip behind the cueball and rest the butt of the cue on table. the person infront of me can tell that the cueball is not aiming to the pocket.

                          i know its confusing, but i shouldnt have posted those pictures in the first place

                          thank you

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                          • #28
                            It's very hard to help over the Internet, something you can show in two minutes in person can be very hard to explain in words only.
                            This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                            https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                            • #29
                              So I take it you can't play the white up and down the spots and return it to your tip at a reasonable pace?
                              This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                              https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                                It's very hard to help over the Internet, something you can show in two minutes in person can be very hard to explain in words only.
                                you are correct

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