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    • Originally Posted by Krypton View Post
      yeah, we can't wait...
      Who is "we"? This is one of the best coaching threads I've read here.

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      • Originally Posted by brendan147 View Post
        I used to play @ 2 different clubs here. Just give them their names as club A and club B.

        Club A
        -aramith snooker ball

        Club B
        -smaller and lighter snooker ball (I don't know the brand though)
        Is there a chance you can have your own set of snooker balls and bring them in for practice/framing? It'd take at least one variable out of the game...

        Originally Posted by Looki View Post
        Who is "we"? This is one of the best coaching threads I've read here.
        yes it is, but it has become VERY fragmented / unclear.

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        • On the question of having your own set of balls (not cojones, but snooker balls).

          ANY player who wishes to improve should have his own set of Aramith Tournament Champion Pro Cup balls (and not with the spotted cueball either).

          For the most part you cannot rely on the sets of house balls in any clubs unless the owner buys special sets to be used only by the best players and in club tournaments.

          In the tournaments I run here in Ontario I have 8 sets of brand-new (or almost brand new) Pro Cup sets which we take to our ranking tournaments. I also have a jeweler's scale (my wife's actually) and every once in a while I will check the weight of all 8 cueballs plus a random selection of object balls, like maybe black, blue and some reds just to see if they are all around the correct weight (right around 141 grams).

          Terry
          Terry Davidson
          IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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          • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
            On the question of having your own set of balls (not cojones, but snooker balls).

            ANY player who wishes to improve should have his own set of Aramith Tournament Champion Pro Cup balls (and not with the spotted cueball either).

            For the most part you cannot rely on the sets of house balls in any clubs unless the owner buys special sets to be used only by the best players and in club tournaments.

            In the tournaments I run here in Ontario I have 8 sets of brand-new (or almost brand new) Pro Cup sets which we take to our ranking tournaments. I also have a jeweler's scale (my wife's actually) and every once in a while I will check the weight of all 8 cueballs plus a random selection of object balls, like maybe black, blue and some reds just to see if they are all around the correct weight (right around 141 grams).

            Terry
            Thanks for your answer Terry. At least your answer is a very straight forward and reasonable ones. By the way, you still didn't answer my last question in the previous page (post #178).

            Many thanks in advance.
            Last edited by brendan147; 10 November 2009, 07:08 AM.
            My cueing sucks

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            • Originally Posted by Krypton View Post
              Is there a chance you can have your own set of snooker balls and bring them in for practice/framing? It'd take at least one variable out of the game...
              You're always welcome...

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              • Your right brandan, post #178 is a silly question. PLAY IN THE CLUB YOU PREFER AND WHERE YOU PLAY BETTER.

                When you get to a good standard and want to play in tournaments then try and find a club which most closely resembles the tournament conditions you will encounter.

                As an example, I practice at home but most of the clubs here have music on low when we play our ranking tournaments. So I have my iPod on low when I practice (except when Chicago's 'I'm a Man' - long version comes on, then I CRANK IT UP!!!)

                Terry
                Terry Davidson
                IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                • Terry,

                  I did some simple experiment today. I use slow+long back swing techniques to pot the green off its spot to the bottom right pocket. It was 3/4 angle (to the left/towards bottom cushion) of potting line. The cue ball was around 2ft from the green and I was using two type of shots from the same spot for the cue ball.

                  The first shot was a simple+basic plain ball shot and the second shot was a bottom screw ball shot. I played these two shots alternately, again and again, very2 carefully eah and everytime I took the shot, until I satisfied with the result.

                  I found out that my sighting line for the screw ball shot is a little less angle than the plain ball shot. Is it true with what am I saying here? Am I having a cueing across action or, is it a mental fault when I took my sighting line during the shots? Or, does the nap effect have psychologically effecting my sighting line for each type of shot?

                  I was only using somewhere around P3 or P4 shot level (I am just guessing here).

                  This should be a good question now.

                  Thanks.
                  Last edited by brendan147; 10 November 2009, 02:13 PM.
                  My cueing sucks

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                  • brendan:

                    First of all there would be no difference in where the cueball has to contact the green to pot it centre-pocket, and that would be called BOB (Back-of-Object Ball) or the point directly opposite the middle of the pocket on the back of the green ball.

                    That spot never changes no matter where the cueball is or what stuff you are using on the cueball.

                    I would suspect if you think you are aiming differently then either you are really not or else you have developed a glitch in your aiming when you are putting on screw.

                    Your cue aiming line would only change if you were putting side on the cueball

                    Terry
                    Terry Davidson
                    IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                    • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                      brendan:

                      First of all there would be no difference in where the cueball has to contact the green to pot it centre-pocket, and that would be called BOB (Back-of-Object Ball) or the point directly opposite the middle of the pocket on the back of the green ball.

                      That spot never changes no matter where the cueball is or what stuff you are using on the cueball.

                      I would suspect if you think you are aiming differently then either you are really not or else you have developed a glitch in your aiming when you are putting on screw.

                      Your cue aiming line would only change if you were putting side on the cueball

                      Terry
                      I have developed a glitch in my aiming when I am putting on screw? Can you explain more about this, coach?
                      My cueing sucks

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                      • For 'glitch' read 'error or faulty technique'.

                        As long as you are hitting the vertical centre of the cueball from H1 (Height 1, deep screw) to H10 (extreme top) there cannot be any change in how you aim as you have to hit the same spot on the green to pot it centre-pocket.

                        You might be applying a bit of siding on your angled screw shots and if so, then that will change your line of aim (of the cue). But there's no way that would change as long as you are striking centre-ball.

                        If you think you aim different when you apply screw then you have a 'glitch' or error in your technique when applying screw (or else the green is not hitting centre-pocket)

                        Terry
                        Terry Davidson
                        IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                        • Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                          For 'glitch' read 'error or faulty technique'.

                          As long as you are hitting the vertical centre of the cueball from H1 (Height 1, deep screw) to H10 (extreme top) there cannot be any change in how you aim as you have to hit the same spot on the green to pot it centre-pocket.

                          You might be applying a bit of siding on your angled screw shots and if so, then that will change your line of aim (of the cue). But there's no way that would change as long as you are striking centre-ball.

                          If you think you aim different when you apply screw then you have a 'glitch' or error in your technique when applying screw (or else the green is not hitting centre-pocket)

                          Terry
                          Terry,

                          I just wonder it could be my "feeling" that is telling me so, which I think is a Mental Fault too, as in fact I was hitting the same potting line as plain ball strike. I am pretty sure that I am hitting exactly @ H1 or H2 for the screw shot, and it was on the vertical centre of cue ball.
                          My cueing sucks

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                          • Originally Posted by brendan147 View Post
                            Terry,

                            I just wonder it could be my "feeling" that is telling me so, which I think is a Mental Fault too, as in fact I was hitting the same potting line as plain ball strike. I am pretty sure that I am hitting exactly @ H1 or H2 for the screw shot, and it was on the vertical centre of cue ball.
                            Brendan, if you ever become a sucessful professional snooker player I reckon you're gonna owe Terry at least half of any money you make for all the coaching fees in arrears
                            New Zealands biggest snooker fan

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                            • Originally Posted by Forman View Post
                              Brendan, if you ever become a sucessful professional snooker player I reckon you're gonna owe Terry at least half of any money you make for all the coaching fees in arrears
                              PRO? I hope so, but I am 28 you know, so I just want to play to the full potential as I could...and I hope I can still meet Terry someday and play with him
                              My cueing sucks

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                              • Originally Posted by Forman View Post
                                ...if you ever become a sucessful professional snooker player ...
                                if... ever...

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