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  • #16
    Originally Posted by BryanLimSg View Post
    ermm i have no problem screwing back for half table shots but i'hve got an experience fren of mine who told me my cueing is a impact(punchy) therefore when i do long distance screw shot roughly around 60 inch distance from the cue ball and object ball. the most i can screw back is roughly only 40 inchs and when my fren does the exact same shot, his cue ball would usually stop for a split second before it starts to screw back and he can screw back for more than 60 inch's for the exact same shot that i did.
    can anyone tell me hw i stop a punchy or an impact cueing???
    What you're describing is similar to 'stabbing' at the cue ball. You should be cueing with constant acceleration through contact with the cue ball. Stabbing is, in an attempt to produce more power, one quick burst of energy at the cue ball instead of a smooth delivery. You might want to have a look at your cue technique: your cue arm form and your body stance should not differ much between a powerful backscrew shot and a regular follow-through pot.

    For backscrew, the lower you hit the ball, the faster the ball will screw and it will take longer for the cue ball to bite the cloth and accelerate backwards... this is what your friend is doing and it is the preferred backscrew method if you want length, but it is more susceptible to miscue. Trying spending a week or two practicing on your cueing finesse and hitting lower, but gentler, on the cue ball. I did this exercise after work for 8 months and can now screw all the way up the table and then some, even after doubling off of cushions. If you need a demonstration, Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry are excellent professional examples of perfect cueing technique.

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    • #17
      Originally Posted by Lux View Post
      What you're describing is similar to 'stabbing' at the cue ball. You should be cueing with constant acceleration through contact with the cue ball. Stabbing is, in an attempt to produce more power, one quick burst of energy at the cue ball instead of a smooth delivery. You might want to have a look at your cue technique: your cue arm form and your body stance should not differ much between a powerful backscrew shot and a regular follow-through pot.

      For backscrew, the lower you hit the ball, the faster the ball will screw and it will take longer for the cue ball to bite the cloth and accelerate backwards... this is what your friend is doing and it is the preferred backscrew method if you want length, but it is more susceptible to miscue. Trying spending a week or two practicing on your cueing finesse and hitting lower, but gentler, on the cue ball. I did this exercise after work for 8 months and can now screw all the way up the table and then some, even after doubling off of cushions. If you need a demonstration, Steve Davis and Stephen Hendry are excellent professional examples of perfect cueing technique.
      thanks for the advise.so the reaction off the cue ball of his has a pause before screwing back is because he has more spin on the ball?? or is it because of the stroke that he executed??

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by BryanLimSg View Post
        thanks for the advise.so the reaction off the cue ball of his has a pause before screwing back is because he has more spin on the ball?? or is it because of the stroke that he executed??
        It is because of the spin itself. I suspect it is a very deep screw with loads of follow through and smooth cueing action. The speed of cueing action is unlikely the major effect here.
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        • #19
          Originally Posted by brendan147 View Post
          It is because of the spin itself. I suspect it is a very deep screw with loads of follow through and smooth cueing action. The speed of cueing action is unlikely the major effect here.

          ohh.. because i can do screw shots which can stop and then spin when its ard 10~ 30 inchs but not for the 60inchs and abv ones , they would just react str8 after contact with the object ball...

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          • #20
            Originally Posted by BryanLimSg View Post
            ohh.. because i can do screw shots which can stop and then spin when its ard 10~ 30 inchs but not for the 60inchs and abv ones , they would just react str8 after contact with the object ball...
            Try find in youtube where Mark Allen vs John Higgins meet @ WSC 2009 semi final match. Allen cueing from somewhere around baulk area to pot the long red into the top pocket with loaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddssssssssssss of follow through and deep screw shot.

            You will suprise how much the spin of his cue ball until it can screw back up to blue spot area. The black was not available for potting, if I am not mistaken. Find it...must see one...!!!
            My cueing sucks

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            • #21
              All I done to practice screw was screwing back from a straight shot on the blue, simple really.

              I also put the pink on the spot and the black on the spot and put it on a angle so I have to use some sort of screw to stay on the black.

              Remember to just follow through...
              Dark side of the moon

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              • #22
                Originally Posted by snookerfan91 View Post
                All I done to practice screw was screwing back from a straight shot on the blue, simple really.

                I also put the pink on the spot and the black on the spot and put it on a angle so I have to use some sort of screw to stay on the black.

                Remember to just follow through...
                Straight on the blue isn't a good thing to advocate because you have to get out of the way quickly, you set it at a slight angle so you can stay down and observe the shot as you should be doing in frames.
                sigpic A Truly Beakerific Long Pot Sir!

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                • #23
                  Yes agreed to a certain extent but when I do it straight I also know I'm striking straight not all over the place.
                  Dark side of the moon

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                  • #24
                    In my opinion the following things help with screw:
                    Forget about the pot, make sure that you hit the white where you mean to.
                    Keep the grip loose.
                    Very slow backswing.
                    Don't move your head.
                    Avoid hitting the ball too hard... infact , avoid hitting it. Stroke it.
                    And- this one is rarely mentioned but works for me: press down hard with the first finger of your bridge hand. It seems to free up the elbow on your cue arm.
                    Last edited by cantpotforshíte; 25 January 2010, 06:26 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by cantpotforshíte View Post
                      In my opinion the following things help with screw:
                      Forget about the pot, make sure that you hit the white where you mean to.
                      Keep the grip loose.
                      Very slow backswing.
                      Don't move your head.
                      Avoid hitting the ball too hard... infact , avoid hitting it. Stroke it.
                      And- this one is rarely mentioned but works for me: press down hard with the middle finger of your bridge hand. It seems to free up the elbow on your cue arm.
                      or watch this youtube per the link below:-
                      http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...8&postcount=41
                      My cueing sucks

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                      • #26
                        Good video that is.
                        Dark side of the moon

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                        • #27
                          '147harry' w/o playing screw back..? incredible!

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                          • #28
                            Who would you say hits the best screwback? (pro I mean).
                            Dark side of the moon

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                            • #29
                              Neil Robertson.

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by snookerfan91 View Post
                                Who would you say hits the best screwback? (pro I mean).
                                Jimmy White. He is called master of the screw shot.
                                My cueing sucks

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