Screw back-cant do it at all!!

[Terry Davidson]

The fingertip exercise is in Nic Barrow's webinar 'How To Screw Like a Professional' which is found on the Bronze site at TheSnookerGym.com.



When I say fingertip, I mean exactly that. It's not a grip you can use when playing as you are only using the very tips of the thumb and forefinger (no cheating).



However, I can set up the green on spot with the cueball about 15in from it on the yellow side and just off straight and can screw the cueball back to the top pocket or nearly there, and my table is not incredibly fast most of the time.



This exercise shows a student that the grip on the cue is not the determining factor in being able to apply spin to the cueball but rather it's the timing, rhythm and accelerating through the cueball that does the job.



Terry
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[Dragonsye]

On topic, note about Allen- Next to maybe Robertson, he's another who stands out at getting a full table length of screwback on straight pots. I've seen him do it twice in particular, and it never fails to amaze me!! At 2009 worlds I think it was, he played from the baulk cushion, to pot a red very close to the top right-hand corner, and screwed back for perfect position on the blue!! So I guess it works for him!! (PS; I'm also guessing the fact that the bell was almost a sure pot, meant he needed less control over the cue!!)

[brendan147]

On topic, note about Allen- Next to maybe Robertson, he's another who stands out at getting a full table length of screwback on straight pots. I've seen him do it twice in particular, and it never fails to amaze me!! At 2009 worlds I think it was, he played from the baulk cushion, to pot a red very close to the top right-hand corner, and screwed back for perfect position on the blue!! So I guess it works for him!! (PS; I'm also guessing the fact that the bell was almost a sure pot, meant he needed less control over the cue!!)

He met John Higgins in the WSC 2009 semi. I saw that shot too (in youtube). 1 of the best screw shot I have ever seen so far. Wooowwwwwwwww.....!!!! That was all I can say when I saw he did that...

[snookerfan91]

I didn't know so many people found screwing back was actually not as easy as some people make out, quite a few people on this forum struggle from it *shocked*

[snookerfan91]

Another easy way I've found is to place all the reds between the blue > pink > black and just put screw on it constantly with follow through.

[monkey]

well tonight i did one great screw back that came back loads, best ive ever done, but after that i couldnt do it againI tried copying what i did then but it didnt work

[Terry Davidson]

monkey:

Go to - thesnookergym.com - join the Bronze site and then search for Nic Barrow's webinar on 'How to Screw Like a Pro'. It will teach you everything you need to know (however, I still feel you are not hitting the bottom of the cueball)

Terry

[brendan147]

Terry,

What is the technical explaination behind the deep screw shot with loads of follow through? I mean how is our cueing hand, elbow and shoulder react for this type of shot? I'm refering Mark Allen shot when he met J.Higgins in the WSC 2009 semi. Roughly, how long was his follow through for that shot? And what is the best practice routine for "mastering" this type of shot?

Many thanks in advance.

[Terry Davidson]

The best explanation I ever saw was one of those super slow-motion shots of a deep screw (not sure of the player) with (I think) Dennis Taylor and Willie commentating and it actually showed the cue accelerating right through the cueball and beyond, the tip actually brushing the cloth and the follow-through of what looked to be more than 8 inches.

It was amazing...you could see the chalk flying all over the place, the tip of the cue actually bouncing off the cloth and the cueball go airborne about 1/8" off the cloth and then out of the frame.

The secret to very deep screw, the likes which Neil Robertson or Mark Allen can achieve with some degree of accuracy is to accelerate through the cueball and keep accelerating right until your grip hand hits your chest AFTER you've dropped your elbow about 3 inches or so to get that 10" or 12" of follow-through with acceleration.

And one more point, and I don'tknow just why this is, but I've found most good left-handed players are much better at long potting as compared to equal right-handed players. Note, that even Ronnie, with his wonderful (and unique) cue action cannot equal what Neil and Mark achieve. Also note that Liang Wenbo does this too and he's another lefty.

Terry

[cazmac1]

After a break of 20 years from the game I found screwing back to be very diffcult and tops spin also . I mean real top spin, I blamed every thing, the cue, stance bridge, tip, body movement and so on. It's not until I changed my grip that I can now get through the ball. Try having a good look at your grip.:snooker:

[Jonny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8u6z1N5A-g

watch that and put your mouse where the cue ball is and just see how far he follows through. I couldn't do i before i watched the video then once i watched it i could. Think being able to visualize what "follow through" is helps a lot - did for me. Never really could quite understand where i'm meant to finish up but now that i've seen it, i'm able to think about where i should finish myself if that makes sense

[RocketRoy1983]

Not a very good excercise because you have to get quickly out of the way to stop the white hitting your bridge, where you should be staying down and observing what happens on the shot.

Far better is to set the same shot with a small angle and try to screw back and make the white land on the side cushion

Only if your cueing/bridging too close to the white Rob.

[RGCirencester]

You still have to get out of the way, maybe not straight away but you cant stay down until the balls have stopped moving or the white would hit the cue! (/ you in the face )

[noel]

Only if your cueing/bridging too close to the white Rob.

....or if the cueball and object ball are also veryclose?


=o)

Noel

[RocketRoy1983]

Again true Noel.