What is the spin that is used for the canon?

[wayync]

When you want to open up the pack from the black ball, what is the spin that the pros use to smash into the pack and grind the white ball through?

Also, how about the spin used when you are on the blue ball but you have to make the ball go down towards the bulk cushion between the brown and green ball and the cue ball hits the bulk cushion and sort of side spins back up towards the pack to get position?

If anyone knows that would be helpful, please no speculation, thanks!

[Jonny]

When you want to open up the pack from the black ball, what is the spin that the pros use to smash into the pack and grind the white ball through?

Also, how about the spin used when you are on the blue ball but you have to make the ball go down towards the bulk cushion between the brown and green ball and the cue ball hits the bulk cushion and sort of side spins back up towards the pack to get position?

If anyone knows that would be helpful, please no speculation, thanks!

it all depends on the position of the cue ball

[wayync]

it all depends on the position of the cue ball

Yea, but there is one general spin that they use

you see it all the time, in general i'm talking about the white ball closer to the top cushion and having to canon into the reds

as for the blue ball one you must know what i'm talking about, they do it everytime they have to get the cue ball back to the top. Once the cue ball hits the bulk cushion it spins to the side and goes off the side cushion towards the top.

[RGCirencester]

Splitting the pack depends not only on the position of the white but also how the pack is set. Sometimes you'd want to stun into the pack other times you'd want a lot of backspin on the ball to split the pack best and control the white.
What do you mean by grind the white ball through?

[cally]

Stun or is it screw........


I think most players that do it most effectively, use stun, i'm sure they were commenting on mark j using screw at the masters and ronnie uses stun, ronnie gets the balls splitting a treat with stun, where mark fell in trouble with the screw shot going into the pack a few times during the masters...a few times i remember.


It was either that way around or vice versa, it's a bit late on a saturday night for me to think straight and i'm getting confused now....

But i think that;s the right way around, i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong...

[wayync]

Splitting the pack depends not only on the position of the white but also how the pack is set. Sometimes you'd want to stun into the pack other times you'd want a lot of backspin on the ball to split the pack best and control the white.
What do you mean by grind the white ball through?

Wow, I didn't know this would be such a tough question....

hasn't anyone seen it when they do the canon into the reds, it hits the reds and the white ball keeps driving through the reds?

[cally]

I must learn to type faster.....

[cally]

Wow, I didn't know this would be such a tough question....

hasn't anyone seen it when they do the canon into the reds, it hits the reds and the white ball keeps driving through the reds?

I know what you meant fella...

Well on the black anyway, the blue is a bit more difficult, like already said all depends where the white finishes on that shot and your judgement/ability to get the cb back where you want...

[1lawyer]

This type of shot works better on fast cloths as the balls split better and also to play it you need to finish low on the black.
Don't know how they do it (pro's) but I play it with stun and screw depends on situation. If i am going though the pack and to the cushion maybe a bit of right hand side to play off cushion up for blue or left to check back off cushion for black. I find this shot near impossible however on a normal club table, unless it has a thin cloth.

The other shot I think you are describing depends on getting right angle too finishing wrong side (low) on the blue but again I play plain ball (stun shot) aim mid high on white ball to go between brown and green. If you want to get fancy try experimenting with the side yourself...finish low on blue, allow for the side and stun it in at 3 o'clock on the white ball and watch what it does.

I cant really describe it properly...easier just to set it up and practice it yourself.
:snooker:

[wayync]

Ok, I will try to find an example on youtube...but for now, what is the spin that trump uses on the blue and pink ball starting at 3:50 mins? you see how the white after hitting the blue hits the bulk and spins to the side cushion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44fN...6FC9C&index=49

[RGCirencester]

Ok, I will try to find an example on youtube...but for now, what is the spin that trump uses on the blue and pink ball starting at 3:50 mins? you see how the white after hitting the blue hits the bulk and spins to the side cushion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44fN...6FC9C&index=49

About there seem right for the blue to anyone else?

[wayync]

About there seem right to anyone else?

for both the blue and pink?

[RGCirencester]

Sorry that was for the blue

[jrc750]

Thanks for that utube link, enjoyed watching that

[snookerfan91]

About there seem right for the blue to anyone else?

Yup, bottom right hand screw?