sidespin myths

[vmax4steve]

i know 9 balls are bigger but i saw this ages ago and thought it might stir up some people....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGXUld5A24

Sorry, but the bloke is playing mini swerve shots here, as the harder he hits them the less swerve he gets over such a short distance.

[Terry Davidson]

Yes, he is swerving around the first ball and if you put your cursor directly on the cushion you can see he doesn't hit the object ball straight to the cushion and he is not transferring side, just cutting the object ball a bit and with the sloppy 9-ball pockets he makes most of them.

Terry

[Krypton]

i never pretended side was transferred. i know it isn't - at least not in a way that matters for billiards. duuno where you got this from, terry.

[Terry Davidson]

krypton:

Re-read your posting #25 as I don't agree with your first statement there.

Terry

[Krypton]

Well, we disagree then.

I can live with the idea of "side is not transferred when playing snooker" when it is meant in the way of

"The effect is so very small it won't affect your game, normally".

This means, a rolling object ball is not affected at all by a transferred amount of side, be it as small as you can accept.


But then, from a physician's point of view, OF COURSE side is transferred! It's impossible NOT to have it that way.

All the babble about tiny contact points, very short contacts and blank surfaces is unimportant, as the pressure rises respectively, the smaller and shorter the contacts get.


I normally agree with almost everything the Nic Barrow affiliated coaches (and himself) write, good stuff and good help, but that is just (partially) wrong.

I'm with you - cue ball gets deflected when using side, especially with power shots, cue ball swerves back, the earlier the slower the shot was, and on and on - BUT side does affect the object balls path/rotation. EDIT: and I mean what I said before: It doesn't affect your play in snooker (at all), at least in 99.99%. It's just a physical fact. EDIT END


Explain these, Terry, without transferred side:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/norma...new/NVB-20.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAhcjIVWbw