My first 50 snooker game stats

[coveg]

Are my first 50 game stats normal.????? see att. file

Your info would be great
PS I am PJ

[Terry Davidson]

coveg:

OK, I looked at the stats but it doesn't tell me much. First of all you must like statistics or something. Are you an accountant?

Stop tracking the frame total score as it's not much use for tracking improvment because you could get to 147 but in 25 scoring opportunities, which is of no use at all.

Just track win/loss record with Fran as you 2 seem to be close in ability plus high break of the day (not high break per frame). Over a period of time you should see an improvement with the high break rising, but remember it takes time.

As your high break is only 24 you must have quite a few issues with your technique and that is where you have to concentrate if you want to improve.

To get you started down the right path, follow these 5 golden rules (or 'secrets) of how to improve. These 5 rules assume you have a reasonably stable and comfortable stance:
1. Absolutely no head/shoulder movement throughout the shot, from start of feathering until completion of delivery.
2. Loose grip (the cue should be able to slide freely in your grip hand).
3. Slow backswing, slower than you think as this helps to keep the backswing straight and will mean no corrections during the dynamic delivery.
4. Rear pause. Not absolutely vital but 99% of good players have one of anywhere from .5sec to 1.5seconds.
5. On ALL shots ensure your grip hand drives all the way through to your chest and STAY STILL at the end of the delivery with the cue extended and follow the object ball with your eyes ONLY (don't move your head) until the ball drops in the pocket or hits the jaws or cushion.

If you do these 5 things you will improve provided you have normal hand-eye coordination and you continue to practice at least 8 hours per week.

Terry

[rambon]

Not wishing to second guess someone as good as Terry, but I think there are many people who have played 50 frames of snooker who haven't reached a break...

I used to analyse wins versus losses and noted what I considered to be good breaks to keep track of not only the highest, but also frequency of those scores. What that meant was, initially, I'dd keep track of 20+ breaks, then 30+, then 50+

This gives you an idea of how you're progressing from a statistical perspective, but I would never wish to give anyone advice on technical sides of the game as I'm just not good enough to do it.

Good luck

[coveg]

coveg:

OK, I looked at the stats but it doesn't tell me much. First of all you must like statistics or something. Are you an accountant?

Stop tracking the frame total score as it's not much use for tracking improvment because you could get to 147 but in 25 scoring opportunities, which is of no use at all.

Just track win/loss record with Fran as you 2 seem to be close in ability plus high break of the day (not high break per frame). Over a period of time you should see an improvement with the high break rising, but remember it takes time.

As your high break is only 24 you must have quite a few issues with your technique and that is where you have to concentrate if you want to improve.

To get you started down the right path, follow these 5 golden rules (or 'secrets) of how to improve. These 5 rules assume you have a reasonably stable and comfortable stance:
1. Absolutely no head/shoulder movement throughout the shot, from start of feathering until completion of delivery.
2. Loose grip (the cue should be able to slide freely in your grip hand).
3. Slow backswing, slower than you think as this helps to keep the backswing straight and will mean no corrections during the dynamic delivery.
4. Rear pause. Not absolutely vital but 99% of good players have one of anywhere from .5sec to 1.5seconds.
5. On ALL shots ensure your grip hand drives all the way through to your chest and STAY STILL at the end of the delivery with the cue extended and follow the object ball with your eyes ONLY (don't move your head) until the ball drops in the pocket or hits the jaws or cushion.

If you do these 5 things you will improve provided you have normal hand-eye coordination and you continue to practice at least 8 hours per week.

Terry

Thank you Terry, I will start to take some videos , I will be in contact

[cascaders]

stats impression

Hi,

The first thing I noticed was that one of your high breaks was early in your playing. Is it possible that you are now thinking of either position (shape) or reaching a high break too much and missing the pot or striking too hard?

[coveg]

Hi,

The first thing I noticed was that one of your high breaks was early in your playing. Is it possible that you are now thinking of either position (shape) or reaching a high break too much and missing the pot or striking too hard?

Cascaders.

I have been playing 8ball pool league for 6 years now being champion 3 times, So my confidence was good at the start at playing snooker. My personal opinion is that the cue ball is heavier and bigger than a pool ball and that means I cant get my positional play that I am use to. I am a natural spinner of the cue ball, I play 9 out of 10 times some sort of spin. And on a snooker table the ball does different things, so I am or to short or to long for my next shot, meaning I have to play longer or more difficult shots. Unfortunately thus has shot my confidence. My next step is to start from the scratch, as I use to when playing pool, just consentrate on the basics, the better the basics the better my game. But that on a snooker table is a much much harder thing to do!!!

[StevieB13147]

Stats

If you are interested in stats?

Have a look at this website: http://mysnookerstats.com/

It's a stat recorder/analyser/presenter that downloads to your mobile phone.
I purchased it last year for a few pounds (really cheap) and was amazed to see that it produces all the stats you associate with TV and professional players.

Now most of my friends have it installed on their mobile phones.
At first it is different from using the wooden slider scoreboards, but after a few frames of using the mobile phone to record your opponents score as you spot for them, it begins to become an easy and natural way of scoring.
The benefits of using the mobile app is that you have any sort of stat you need and many more that you may not have thought about.

I do a fair bit of coaching and I have also encouraged the parents of my pupils to use it when they are watching their offspring play. Apart from providing a clear and precise report on performance stats, most of the parents also enjoy feeling more involved with the kids and love to print off and show their siblings last great performance.

If you ever wanted a report on where your weaknesses lie, then you wont get better that this application - and it never reports through rose tinted specs!

Cheap as chips!

I think the guy who invented it is also a member of this forum.
If I remember - he is AndyG??

Good Luck to All

[coveg]

If you are interested in stats?

Have a look at this website: http://mysnookerstats.com/

It's a stat recorder/analyser/presenter that downloads to your mobile phone.
I purchased it last year for a few pounds (really cheap) and was amazed to see that it produces all the stats you associate with TV and professional players.

Now most of my friends have it installed on their mobile phones.
At first it is different from using the wooden slider scoreboards, but after a few frames of using the mobile phone to record your opponents score as you spot for them, it begins to become an easy and natural way of scoring.
The benefits of using the mobile app is that you have any sort of stat you need and many more that you may not have thought about.

I do a fair bit of coaching and I have also encouraged the parents of my pupils to use it when they are watching their offspring play. Apart from providing a clear and precise report on performance stats, most of the parents also enjoy feeling more involved with the kids and love to print off and show their siblings last great performance.

If you ever wanted a report on where your weaknesses lie, then you wont get better that this application - and it never reports through rose tinted specs!

Cheap as chips!

I think the guy who invented it is also a member of this forum.
If I remember - he is AndyG??

Good Luck to All

Thanks I will have a look at it!

[Terry Davidson]

coveg:

On the one point you just mentioned where you say you use a lot of spin and the cueball reacts differently on a snooker table compared to a pool table.

This sound to me as it you are using side-spin and if you are then QUIT IT!!!

Once you get to the point where you are making fairly consistent 40 breaks then you can start to use side-spin but not before as it increases the difficulty of any pot 10-fold or more.

Terry

[johno]

Terry

I enjoy reading your posts and expert technical advice.
Do you have any video clips of yourself, you can post that shows your own
cue action. I feel it would be of benefit to the forum if we could view your
action (from different camera angles etc to see your stance, delivery and so on )
Thanks