black as the free ball

[adibon]

Salam,

Playing snooker game and at the end only pink and black remain on the table where the striker has called the black as a free ball.
Can he snooker his opponent by the black or not ? In case he can, how many times this could be done in a single frame ?

Be Sport ... Become ADIB ( wise )

[jrc750]

No you can not snooker somebody behind a freeball. Even if say you tried to pot the black but missed and it came to rest laying a snooker that would also be a foul shot.

[thinsy]

No you can not snooker somebody behind a freeball. Even if say you tried to pot the black but missed and it came to rest laying a snooker that would also be a foul shot.

WRONG!!

When only the pink and black are left on the table it is a legal shot to roll upto the black and snooker your opponent.... This is the only instance in which you can snooker behind the nominated free ball.

[DeanH]

WRONG!!

When only the pink and black are left on the table it is a legal shot to roll upto the black and snooker your opponent.... This is the only instance in which you can snooker behind the nominated free ball.

Well there you go, you learn something new every day.
I thought that jrc750 was correct as that is how I see the rule, many thanks for the clarification.
Cheers
DeanH

[The Statman]

Yes the "no snookering behind the free ball" has an exception - when pink and black are the only object balls on the table, it IS permissible to snooker behind the black.

This could happen unlimited times (theoretically), although if you are thinking of a replacement after a Miss, it would only normally be called when neither player needs snookers so the same snooker could only really be called four times (snookering player is 12 or 13 behind and it is replaced on a further three occasions when he would be 12 or 11 points in front).

[adibon]

Salam,
Thanks for reply . Could you give me the code rule?
How many times this could be repeated in a single frame was the other part of my question. Any idea?

[The Statman]

Salam,
Thanks for reply . Could you give me the code rule?
How many times this could be repeated in a single frame was the other part of my question. Any idea?

Well, there's no particular limit.

Look at it this way: I foul on the pink and leave you a free ball; you snooker me behind the (free ball) black. I miss and leave you another free ball; repeat until can't take it any more! Or, you then go in off and leave me a free ball, then repeat as desired.


By the way, you can completely ignore the last sentence of my previous post - it was complete twaddle!

[thinsy]

Salam,
Thanks for reply . Could you give me the code rule?
How many times this could be repeated in a single frame was the other part of my question. Any idea?

As already mentioned the 'miss' rule would only allow the cueball to be replaced a maximum of 4 times (dependant on frame scores of course) but in theory the 'free-ball' situation could happen unlimited times. But the snookered player would be unlucky to constantly leave a free-ball every time he failed a snooker escape!!

[Souwester]

Salam,
Thanks for reply . Could you give me the code rule?

10. Snookered After a Foul

(b) It is a foul if the cue-ball should
(i) fail to hit the Nominated ball first, or first simultaneously with the ball on, or
(ii) be snookered on all Reds, or the ball on, by the free ball thus nominated, except when the Pink and Black are the only object balls remaining on the table.

[ste bed]

No you can not snooker somebody behind a freeball. Even if say you tried to pot the black but missed and it came to rest laying a snooker that would also be a foul shot.

Well there you go, you learn something new every day.
I thought that jrc750 was correct as that is how I see the rule, many thanks for the clarification.
Cheers
DeanH

i am suprised that you didnt know this how long have you been playing.

[DeanH]

ste_bed
Quite a few years but I must admit I have never been foul-snookered behind the black with only the pink on the table.
I only picked up this rule from the commentary of the TV, and this particlular scenario I have never seen on a TV match.

[DeanH]

ste_bed
I have played snooker for many years but I have never been foul-snookered behind the black with only the pink on the table.
I heard of this rule from commentary of the TV and have not seen this particular scenario on a televised match.
I must admit that I have not sat down and read the rules from start to finish - maybe one day :-)

Sorry for the double post, "fat-fingers on keyboard"

[jrc750]

WRONG!!

When only the pink and black are left on the table it is a legal shot to roll upto the black and snooker your opponent.... This is the only instance in which you can snooker behind the nominated free ball.

Thankyou for that thinsy, something i didnt know and will now try & remember if it ever crops up

[adibon]

WRONG!!

When only the pink and black are left on the table it is a legal shot to roll upto the black and snooker your opponent.... This is the only instance in which you can snooker behind the nominated free ball.

Salam ,
you have a thread :Another 'free-ball' situation!!!
in which you snookered by the nominated free ball( the pink ).
Is there more than one exeption then?

As already mentioned the 'miss' rule would only allow the cueball to be replaced a maximum of 4 times (dependant on frame scores of course) but in theory the 'free-ball' situation could happen unlimited times. But the snookered player would be unlucky to constantly leave a free-ball every time he failed a snooker escape!!

"... a maximun of 4 times".Could you give the rule's code. please ?

[adibon]

Salam,
Thank you for the code.
But I am not so sure about being able to play this for an unlimited times. I read some where that this could take place only once in a single frame.