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  • #16
    If you can get on a table by yourself for a 1/2-hour or so and try these then I would say evaluate what is working right away for you and use that in the match.

    My recommendation would be to try these things ONE AT A TIME. The straight bridge arm thrust out as far as you can (remember to grip the cue further back, the distance depending on how much you bent your bridge arm previously). The straight arm you should be able to implement right away as it's static rather than dynamic.

    The wrist cock is sort of a blend between static and dynamic and will probably take some time to master and get right and I recommend you do that after the match as otherwise you'll be thinking about your technique while playing the match instead of what you should be thinking of and that's potting the balls and getting position. I also recommend you wait to change your grip to the forefinger only (I hate the word 'grip' as it implies pressure and like the term 'hold on the cue' more as too many players grip the cue too tight and too early in the delivery, even though they don't know they're doing it and will swear they're not until I show them a video in stop motion).

    Getting the cue more to the centre of the chin and turning the head might be a big change in alignment for you and I would also recommend you wait until after the match as it will detract from your concentration to get this right.

    On the other hand, if you feel you're playing absolute crap with your present technique, then try these tips out one at a time and if the results seem to be better that you are getting now then use them right away in your match, but try and do all the thinking about it when you're standing behind the shot determining your aim and try not to think about your technique from the address position through to the delivery. Form the grip on the cue while you're standing behind the shot, thrust out the left arm as you're dropping into the shot and you should have them all because you will have the hammer grip and wrist cock, along with the forefinger-only grip BEFORE your bridge hand hits the table.

    After your match keep working on each tip individually ONLY. You must do them one at a time because otherwise you won't know which one of them is effecting your delivery.

    Terry
    Terry Davidson
    IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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    • #17
      jaycho:

      Also, positive or negative, I would ask you to post the results of your changes on here please.

      These tips result in proper consistent and straight delivery and with them you should notice an immediate improvement in your accuracy, especially for long pots AS LONG AS YOU ARE KEEPING YOUR CHIN ON THE CUE THROUGHOUT THE BACKSWING AND DELIVERY.

      This is THE most important tip I can give to every student. You should be able to place a full glass of water balanced on the head in the address position and not spill a drop through the feathers, backswing, delivery and also forcing yourself to keep down and still at the end of the delivery for a second or two.

      I have helped a lot of students by getting them to change their techniques to using these methods and they're are in line with what all (or most anyway) coaches are teaching, and there is no doubt in my mind your delivery will improve

      Terry
      Terry Davidson
      IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
        jaycho:

        Also, positive or negative, I would ask you to post the results of your changes on here please.

        These tips result in proper consistent and straight delivery and with them you should notice an immediate improvement in your accuracy, especially for long pots AS LONG AS YOU ARE KEEPING YOUR CHIN ON THE CUE THROUGHOUT THE BACKSWING AND DELIVERY.

        This is THE most important tip I can give to every student. You should be able to place a full glass of water balanced on the head in the address position and not spill a drop through the feathers, backswing, delivery and also forcing yourself to keep down and still at the end of the delivery for a second or two.

        I have helped a lot of students by getting them to change their techniques to using these methods and they're are in line with what all (or most anyway) coaches are teaching, and there is no doubt in my mind your delivery will improve

        Terry
        hi Terry,

        Being the snooker fanatic that I am, I went to practise in my lunch hour.

        I straightened out my arm and worked on cueing a lot closer to the centre of my chin, this seemed to help a lot with my accuracy and I was potting more frequently and also when I missed, I missed by less distance to normal.

        I also started to purposely push my right shoulder in, so that it wouldnt jolt out and this also helped.

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        • #19
          Hi Terry,

          I just wanted to say thank you for posting on my thread to help me with my cue action, I am now potting the long blue's with confidence and screwing back half the length of the table!

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          • #20
            jaycho:

            Now you must be very careful not to re-start the 'fine tuning' you've been doing over the last little while.

            If you are potting the long blues consistently (or at least better than you were) then stick with what you are doing now so you can get used to it and get even more consistent.

            The danger I see with you is you will try and turn the head even more to get your left eye right over the cue, but this isn't necessary and the head should be turned only slightly. See if you can get a head-on shot of Neil Robertson for a good example.

            Don't worry if the left eye is not directly over the cue as your brain will automatically correct for that and a small turn to the right will not effect you getting into the proper alignment for you.

            Too many players will get the mental thought 'well if it works better when I turn it very slightly, maybe it will work better if I turn it to the right even more'. DO NOT GET INTO THIS TRAP!

            Terry
            Terry Davidson
            IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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            • #21
              I will try not to.

              Terry, is there any chance I could send you a video of my cue action by email?

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              • #22
                jay:

                email will not work as I'm limited in the size of attachments and video files are too big.

                The best way is to post the video on youtube and then email me the link at - terrydavidson45 (at) gmail (dot) com

                Terry
                Terry Davidson
                IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                • #23
                  ok thanks Terry

                  I'll try and get something up tonight if i can!

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                  • #24
                    JayCho

                    I have the same problem simular to yours. I put a little right hand side on the ball at the end of the stroke. i've been playing like this for a year now. Only found out after going to see a coach in Birmingham a few weeks ago. Didnt take him long find out the problem and gave me me a few points to go away with and work on. My game has gone backwards now as im trying to get to grips with the new techneque. Im sure in the long run my game will improve.

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by JayCho View Post
                      Hi, im a new member on the forum and it has been pointed out that come through the ball right to left, I have been told its because my shoulder forces itself out and I need to focus on keeping it still.

                      Could there be any other reasons as to why I am cueing this way?

                      Any comments would be appreciated
                      I've got this problem and I now know that nearly all my cuing faults and missed pots are down to movement.

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                      • #26
                        Yep a little bit a shoulder movement when applying power......

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                        • #27
                          I think if you have ZERO movement in ANY part of your body or head while playing the shot then it's very hard to not cue straight.

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                          • #28
                            Hi Richard,

                            Which coach did u got and see in Birmingham?

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                            • #29
                              HI JayCho

                              It's Andy Brett over in Solihull.

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