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  • #31
    Originally Posted by Theguywithaplan View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen ronnie drop his elbow on the backswing to be honest. Watch this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1s9oC5ebFs
    Have to say though I still don't see the advantage of not dropping it.
    Probably the best camera angles for watching snooker are in the premier league, having replayed ronnie vs mark selby last thursday numerous times, ronnie dropped his elbow to some extent on 70% of his shots on backswing, even his initial break offs which were played right handed he dropped elbow at least 2 inches on backswing, only the soft strength shots did he not drop elbow, the 147 break u show, on the initial opening red ronnie drops his elbow!

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    • #32
      I wouldn’t get to hung up on whether the elbow drops a tiny bit on the back swing, what del teaches is an ideal cue action, much the same why Joe Davis did in his book. The main thing about the Del drive is the dropping of the elbow and accelerating through the ball, As del believes that the pecker when stopping the cue at the chest causes the cue to decelerate.
      More aceleration = more power= less force=slower action=better cuing

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      • #33
        This subject has been discussed loads on other threads but, lets go again.
        The method of up and down, to me, makes no sense at all(and i have had many discussions with Del about this). Del is a good coach and a great motivator but my own idea do differ from his, although we do have mutual respect for each other.
        I firmly believe that to hit the ball with optimum efficiency and accuracy, the tip must stay on the same plane throughout the hit.
        This cannot be achieved by UP to Down. This movement causes the tip to be changing its path through the ball. It cannot under any circumstances achieve a better hit than a cue being delivered on a constant plane.
        Another thing about Up to Down is it asks you to have a gap between your cue and cushion to allow you to drop the elbow on the follow through. It is complete and utter madness to try to do this.
        I have spent ages correcting a pro from doing this and after he was getting his cue almost touching the cushion at address and it stayed on the plane to the finish of the shot. He had never been able to play power shots before and after correcting it he was able to screw a ball from baulk line back to baulk line from a ball level with the pink spot. He could not believe he was capable of doing this and it was all to do with getting him on the correct plane and staying on it throughout the shot, there was also the matter of having to change his grip because the up to down method had cause him to force the hand open and completely mistime the closing(squeeze i call it) of the grip.
        Think about this, you would not get someone to move there cue from side to side then ask them to hit it perfectly through the centre it would be mad, so why would you ask someone to deliberately ask someone to move the cue up and down to hit it through the centre. Even if they manage it, how can it be done consistently.
        Always try to keep your game simple. A good technique will look simple because it is.
        "Don't think, feel"

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        • #34
          Originally Posted by The Doctor View Post
          This subject has been discussed loads on other threads but, lets go again.
          The method of up and down, to me, makes no sense at all(and i have had many discussions with Del about this). Del is a good coach and a great motivator but my own idea do differ from his, although we do have mutual respect for each other.
          I firmly believe that to hit the ball with optimum efficiency and accuracy, the tip must stay on the same plane throughout the hit.
          This cannot be achieved by UP to Down. This movement causes the tip to be changing its path through the ball. It cannot under any circumstances achieve a better hit than a cue being delivered on a constant plane.
          Another thing about Up to Down is it asks you to have a gap between your cue and cushion to allow you to drop the elbow on the follow through. It is complete and utter madness to try to do this.
          I have spent ages correcting a pro from doing this and after he was getting his cue almost touching the cushion at address and it stayed on the plane to the finish of the shot. He had never been able to play power shots before and after correcting it he was able to screw a ball from baulk line back to baulk line from a ball level with the pink spot. He could not believe he was capable of doing this and it was all to do with getting him on the correct plane and staying on it throughout the shot, there was also the matter of having to change his grip because the up to down method had cause him to force the hand open and completely mistime the closing(squeeze i call it) of the grip.
          Think about this, you would not get someone to move there cue from side to side then ask them to hit it perfectly through the centre it would be mad, so why would you ask someone to deliberately ask someone to move the cue up and down to hit it through the centre. Even if they manage it, how can it be done consistently.
          Always try to keep your game simple. A good technique will look simple because it is.
          i will begin to practice this dropping elbow technique after my exams.
          thanks for ur great advices guys

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