no improvement

[nrage]

i can only pot 1 or 2 out of 5 from baulk line on the blue spot

i checked, my cueing is straight, i asked the other fellow to stand in front of me check in front of me, im not putting my cue in line

im not aiming where i suppose to hit

what can i do to solve this problem? i do walk in the line

after i tried to use only right eye to aim, the problem solved, but i feel uncomfortable

any advice on this?

When you say you used only your right eye to aim, did you close your left eye?

Or did you turn your head?

Or move your head more to one side of the cue?

[ccfook2123]

i did not close, i cant aim if i close the other eye

i think i turn my head

[exolon]

If you are cueing straight you should be able to play up and down the spots. You should also be confident of potting a long straight blue into the corner and following the white into the pocket. i hope that helps.

Sorry to butt in, but this has been bothering me for a while - I'm left-handed and almost always miss straight blues from the baulk line (the white consistently hits to the left of target, often half-ball). When I play up and down the spots however, the white goes straight up and down, back to the cue tip.

Why can I play the white up and down the spots, but miss long blues by a mile? Is it to do with cue/eye position? I'm right-eyed too, but I try to keep the cue in the middle of my chin - however, sometimes I realise that I've turned my head to the left automatically...

[damienlch]

i can only pot 1 or 2 out of 5 from baulk line on the blue spot...

hi fook, that's not too bad... just need to remember how you got the 2 shots in and apply the basics, i.e. loose grip, smooth acceleration and follow-through. don't jab at the cue ball.

Why can I play the white up and down the spots, but miss long blues by a mile? Is it to do with cue/eye position? I'm right-eyed too, but I try to keep the cue in the middle of my chin - however, sometimes I realise that I've turned my head to the left automatically...

hi exolon, you may be hitting the cue ball harder when trying to pot the long blues as compared to running up and down the spots... if so, it could be unwanted side that is causing you to miss the blue.

[exolon]

hi exolon, you may be hitting the cue ball harder when trying to pot the long blues as compared to running up and down the spots... if so, it could be unwanted side that is causing you to miss the blue.

That's a good point... I'll try playing the blue more gently, and when I'm rolling the white on the spots, hitting that a bit harder to see if I introduce accidental side.

[ccfook2123]

i used to pot 7 out of 10 2 months back
and the form only last only 2 days, 2 days only....

after that the form gone, and i was potting the shots using deep screw
i played on a very bad condition club table, other people only can play stun shoot, but i can play deep screw, the cue ball back to cushion after hit the blue, and the blue potted

now the form is gone
i want to get the form back... playing around 5 hours per day now, most of the time is just playing , only around 30 minutes solo train


and i found if i dont apply side, i always miss the position, if i apply side, the shoot most often didnt pot
need more trial and error to improve

[Freddie Ng]

i used to pot 7 out of 10 2 months back
and the form only last only 2 days, 2 days only....

after that the form gone, and i was potting the shots using deep screw
i played on a very bad condition club table, other people only can play stun shoot, but i can play deep screw, the cue ball back to cushion after hit the blue, and the blue potted

now the form is gone
i want to get the form back... playing around 5 hours per day now, most of the time is just playing , only around 30 minutes solo train


and i found if i dont apply side, i always miss the position, if i apply side, the shoot most often didnt pot
need more trial and error to improve

WWWWWWAAAAAAAOOOOOO..... 7/10...... POTTED...... IMPRESSIVE....

I myself sometimes can have up to 7/10 misses ..

[exolon]

I myself sometimes can have up to 7/10 misses ..

At least 7/10 misses here Honestly if I can pot 3/10 long blues I'm pretty happy...

[Freddie Ng]

At least 7/10 misses here Honestly if I can pot 3/10 long blues I'm pretty happy...

Most of the time I could only pot it with stun shot. . hardly get any follow.. and screw back from there is almost immpossible..

[Terry Davidson]

Well, as they all say (including myself) this damned sport of our is a CONSTANT learning experience.

With all the time I've put into practice and also training to become a Master Coach I've just recently learned how to pot straight shots and get major screw on them.

As an example, my initial warm-up each day is to place 7 balls across the blue spot with cueball in hand on the baulkline. The first shot is a straight in blue off the spot but the shots get a little hards as you work your way out.

Initially, I was potting these in 7-10 shots using a 'stop' shot but as I became more consistent with this I decided I would try and screw the white back to at least the baulkline and even the baulk cushion.

Just in the past week or so I've been getting to where I can either pot the ball or at least tightly rattle it and also screw back the 6ft into baulk.

It turned out my problems were in my grip which was too tight in the back 3 fingers and forcing shoulder movement and also a deceleration of the cue on striking the white. If I forced it I could get the screw required but my accuracy suffered and I would miss the pot by a foot.

In correcting this I've gone to the straight forefinger grip (which I've been recommending here) and as a result of initiating the backswing and delivery with ONLY the forefinger and having the back 3 fingers just barely touching the cue I've arrived at the spot where I'm screwing back 6 feet using just a touch more than medium pace (my table is not that fast, just a 6811 on it and my cueball is at 141gm) and for some reason my shoulder/head movement has stopped altogether.

I've also noticed when warming up with the line-up that I'm over-screwing a lot of positional shots and have to make that adjustment too.

Terry

[alabadi]

i used to pot 7 out of 10 2 months back
and the form only last only 2 days, 2 days only....

after that the form gone, and i was potting the shots using deep screw
i played on a very bad condition club table, other people only can play stun shoot, but i can play deep screw, the cue ball back to cushion after hit the blue, and the blue potted

now the form is gone
i want to get the form back...__________________
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Hi ccfook

i used to practice straight blues to the corner pocket both sides for the first hour soloevery time i went to practice. and i got to the stage where i could consistently pot 5-6 out of 10, i did a few times get 7, however then all of a sudden my form just dissapeared like you i could only manage 3-4 at best.
i then had a coaching session and mentioned this to the coach and he advised me to stop doing it as it would not benefit me now, its too difficult and most pros find it difficult too. he told me that pros would be happy with 6out of 10 long straight blues. so now i am concentrating on other aspects of my game which are more important.

i guess that the more i was missing the long pots the more frustrated i was getting and this had a negative impact on other parts of my game.

alabbadi
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Originally posted at Http://www.thesnookergym.com/forums

[Gerry Armstrong]

If you have to think about "potting" the long blues then there is something fundamental wrong with your technique.

Long straight blues are a useful test of cueing. If you're cueing straight and true you'll pot almost every one. If not, something technical is wrong.

[exolon]

If you have to think about "potting" the long blues then there is something fundamental wrong with your technique.

Long straight blues are a useful test of cueing. If you're cueing straight and true you'll pot almost every one. If not, something technical is wrong.

Cueing perfectly straight and true is not a trivial feat... very few people can do it consistently - even the pros struggle.

[Gerry Armstrong]

Cueing perfectly straight and true is not a trivial feat... very few people can do it consistently - even the pros struggle.

You missed the point I was making. If you're thinking about potting the blue you're thinking about the wrong thing. If you line up correctly on the line of aim and cue straight then the blue will go on in. So focus on lining up and cueing straight, not "potting" the blue.

And it isn't THAT difficult on that particular shot as that's all you have to think about. I'm just an average club player who has never made a century and gets to play on average 1-2 times a week. My record is 7 in offs in a row i.e. pot blue and follow in with white and I have had 10/10 pots on the blue.

As for the pros, you've obviously never watched Alan McManus practicing them. He can roll them in all day long.

[jb134]

You missed the point I was making. If you're thinking about potting the blue you're thinking about the wrong thing. If you line up correctly on the line of aim and cue straight then the blue will go on in. So focus on lining up and cueing straight, not "potting" the blue.

And it isn't THAT difficult on that particular shot as that's all you have to think about. I'm just an average club player who has never made a century and gets to play on average 1-2 times a week. My record is 7 in offs in a row i.e. pot blue and follow in with white and I have had 10/10 pots on the blue.

As for the pros, you've obviously never watched Alan McManus practicing them. He can roll them in all day long.

Well I've made loads of centuries and when confronted with that blue off the baulkline, I roll in behind the yellow.

Honestly? 10/10? Can you teach me? I don't even fancy a straight pink off the spot now! I couldn't do 7 follow throughs in a row on a pool table. Any chance of a start for moeny?

As for the mac, you're right, all day long, Lardner was the same.