Terry Griffiths Coaching

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Some nice posts mate, your spot on on both occasions. Nuff said



So true. My back and hamstrings are killing me today. He did get his ruler and tape measure on me to! and he drew a pencil mark on my cue where my thumb should be!.. I was a little perturbed about this as its a trevor white!.. when he got the marker pen out at the end of the session I said the pencil mark would serfice!!!!

All top notch tho, have my notes through no so alot of work ahead :snooker:

Does this mean that you now grip the cue in exactly the same position for every shot where you can adopt a conventional stance?

[cally]

That reminds me, i remember marco fu having a little bit tape around his cue (looked like tape) a few touney's ago, think it may have been the PL..it was funny seeing him with tape around his butt on tv tables...

Terry seemed to have sorted something for him. Marco has been playing some real good stuff lately ain't he, and he's without the tape now too, he must have sussed where to hold the cue now....lol...

[JanieWatkins]

Does this mean that you now grip the cue in exactly the same position for every shot where you can adopt a conventional stance?

yes! I've still got the marks on my cue even thought I haven't played for 3 years. I could go to my cue now and get straight down on a shot in exactly the same way as when I last played.

and here's a cute llittle tip - use those marks for rest shots... it works a treat - even the great man hadn't thought of it!

it makes you much more consistent with the rest and you'll soon find you can play a wider range of shots with the rest than before.

[mick.hinde]

Hey Janie, it's probably worth checking with the boss about this. I think he may suggest 2-3mm either way for rest shots.lol. Thats the great thing with him though, I bet he wouldn't flinch to be rung to ask!

[firefrets]

Sorry Terry, but for £120 per hour you should be ashamed.

Snooker is a working mans sport, played predominantly by the working class, and it should be kept affordable for the working man.

The price of cues, cases, table hire, and now Terry Giffiths coaching?
No wonder the game is dying.

And before someone says "Yes, but Terry was World Champion now you know"

Ranking tournamentsWorld Championship (1979)
[edit] Non-ranking tournamentsMasters (1980)
Irish Masters (1980–1982)
Classic (1982)
UK Championship (1982)
Pot Black (1984)
Hong Kong Masters (1985)
Belgian Classic (1986)
Welsh Professional Championship (1985, 1986, 1988)

Compared to Stephen Hendry:

Winner 1. 1987 Grand Prix Dennis Taylor 10–7
Winner 2. 1988 British Open Mike Hallett 13–2
Runner-up 1. 1988 UK Championship Doug Mountjoy 12–16
Winner 3. 1989 Asian Open James Wattana 9–2
Winner 4. 1989 Dubai Classic Doug Mountjoy 9–2
Winner 5. 1989 UK Championship Steve Davis 16–12
Runner-up 2. 1989 International Open Steve Davis 4–9
Runner-up 3. 1990 European Open John Parrott 6–10
Winner 6. 1990 World Snooker Championship Jimmy White 18–12
Winner 7. 1990 Grand Prix (2) Nigel Bond 10–5
Winner 8. 1990 Asian Open (2) Dennis Taylor 9–3
Winner 9. 1990 Dubai Classic (2) Steve Davis 9–1
Winner 10. 1990 UK Championship (2) Steve Davis 16–15
Runner-up 4. 1991 Classic Jimmy White 4–10
Winner 11. 1991 British Open (2) Gary Wilkinson 10–9
Winner 12. 1991 Grand Prix (3) Steve Davis 10–6
Winner 13. 1992 Welsh Open Darren Morgan 9–3
Runner-up 5. 1992 Classic (2) Steve Davis 8–9
Winner 14. 1992 World Snooker Championship (2) Jimmy White 18–14
Runner-up 6. 1992 Dubai Classic John Parrott 8–9
Runner-up 7. 1993 European Open (2) Steve Davis 4–10
Winner 15. 1993 International Open Steve Davis 10–6
Winner 16. 1993 World Snooker Championship (3) Jimmy White 18–5
Winner 17. 1993 Dubai Classic (3) Steve Davis 9–3
Runner-up 8. 1993 UK Championship (2) Ronnie O'Sullivan 6–10
Winner 18. 1993 European Open Ronnie O'Sullivan 9–5
Winner 19. 1994 World Snooker Championship (4) Jimmy White 18–17
Winner 20. 1994 UK Championship (3) Ken Doherty 10–5
Winner 21. 1994 European Open (2) John Parrott 9–3
Winner 22. 1995 World Snooker Championship (5) Nigel Bond 18–9
Winner 23. 1995 Grand Prix (4) John Higgins 9–5
Winner 24. 1995 UK Championship (4) Peter Ebdon 10–3
Winner 25. 1996 World Snooker Championship (6) Peter Ebdon 18–12
Winner 26. 1996 UK Championship (5) John Higgins 10–9
Winner 27. 1997 Welsh Open (2) Mark King 9–2
Winner 28. 1997 International Open (2) Tony Drago 9–1
Runner-up 9. 1997 British Open Mark Williams 2–9
Runner-up 10. 1997 World Snooker Championship Ken Doherty 12–18
Runner-up 11. 1997 UK Championship (3) Ronnie O'Sullivan 6–10
Winner 29. 1998 Thailand Masters (3) John Parrott 9–6
Runner-up 12. 1998 British Open (2) John Higgins 8–9
Runner-up 13. 1999 Welsh Open Mark Williams 8–9
Winner 30. 1999 Scottish Open (3) Graeme Dott 9–1
Winner 31. 1999 World Snooker Championship (7) Mark Williams 18–11
Winner 32. 1999 British Open (3) Peter Ebdon 9–1
Runner-up 14. 2000 Thailand Masters Mark Williams 5–9
Runner-up 15. 2001 Thailand Masters (2) Ken Doherty 3–9
Winner 33. 2001 European Open (3) Joe Perry 9–2
Runner-up 16. 2002 World Snooker Championship (2) Peter Ebdon 17–18
Winner 34. 2003 Welsh Open (3) Mark Williams 9–5
Runner-up 17. 2003 European Open (3) Ronnie O'Sullivan 6–9
Winner 35. 2003 British Open (4) Ronnie O'Sullivan 9–6
Runner-up 18. 2003 UK Championship (4) Matthew Stevens 8–10
Runner-up 19. 2005 Welsh Open (2) Ronnie O'Sullivan 8–9
Winner 36. 2005 Malta Cup (4) Graeme Dott 9–7
Runner-up 20. 2005 China Open Ding Junhui 5–9
Runner-up 21. 2006 UK Championship (5)

No. Year Championship Opponent in the final Score
1. 1986 Scottish Professional Matt Gibson 10–5
2. 1987 Scottish Professional Jim Donnelly 10–7
3. 1987 Australian Masters Mike Hallett 371–226 *
4. 1988 Scottish Professional Murdo MacLeod 10–4
5. 1988 New Zealand Masters Mike Hallett 6–1
1. 1989 Masters John Parrott 9–6
6. 1989 Continental Airlines London Masters John Parrott 4–2
7. 1989 Scottish Masters Terry Griffiths 10–1
8. 1990 Continental Airlines London Masters John Parrott 4–2
2. 1990 Masters John Parrott 9–4
9. 1990 Pontins Professional Mike Hallett 9–6
10. 1990 Scottish Masters Terry Griffiths 10–6
3. 1991 Masters Mike Hallett 9–8
11. 1991 Hong Kong Challenge James Wattana 9–1
12. 1991 Indian Challenge John Parrott 9–5
1. 1991 Matchroom League Steve Davis **
13. 1992 European Challenge Joe Johnson 4–0
4. 1992 Masters John Parrott 9–4
14. 1992 Irish Masters Ken Doherty 9–6
2. 1992 Matchroom League Steve Davis 9–2
15. 1993 European Challenge Tony Drago 5–3
5. 1993 Masters James Wattana 9–5
3. 1994 European League John Parrott 10–7
16. 1994 Top Rank Classic Jimmy White **
17. 1995 Scottish Masters Peter Ebdon 9–5
18. 1995 Charity Challenge Dennis Taylor 9–1
4. 1995 European League Ken Doherty 10–2
6. 1996 Masters Ronnie O'Sullivan 10–5
19. 1997 Irish Masters Darren Morgan 9–8
20. 1997 Charity Challenge Ronnie O'Sullivan 9–8
21. 1998 Red Bull Super Challenge John Higgins **
22. 1998 Malta Grand Prix Ken Doherty 7–6
23. 1999 Champions Cup Mark Williams 7–5
24. 1999 Irish Masters Stephen Lee 9–8
5. 2000 Premier League Snooker Mark Williams 9–5
25. 2001 Malta Grand Prix Mark Williams 7–6
6. 2004 Premier League Snooker John Higgins 9–6
26. 2009 Legends of Snooker[19]
1. 1987 World Doubles (with Mike Hallet) Cliff Thorburn
Dennis Taylor 12–8
2. 1991 Mita/Sky World Masters Men's Doubles (with Mike Hallett) Brady Gollan
Jim Wych 8–5
3. 1996 World Cup (with team Scotland) Ireland 10–7
4. 2001 Nations Cup (with team Scotland) Ireland 6–2

[edit] Amateur finalsNo. Year Tournament Opponent in Final Score in Final
1. 1983 Scottish Under-16 Championship
2. 1984 Scottish Amateur Championship David Sneddon [20]
3. 1985 Scottish Amateur Championship Jim McNellan [20]

[edit] AwardsAward Year
Member of the British Empire (MBE) 1994
BBC Scotland Sports Personality of the Year 1987, 1996
WPBSA Player of the Year 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996
WPBSA Young Player of the Year 1988
WPBSA Performance of the Year 1995

[mick.hinde]

I haven't tried to get a lesson from Stephen Hendry but I bet if you asked him he would probably say you would be better off going to Terry for coaching advice! He has devoted many years to coaching and try comparing the price of coaching of another working mans game like football. I wonder how much it would cost to hire the say Alex Ferguson for 2 hours ( I use him as an example although I will be the first to admit I know nothing about football or their managers, suffice to say he is also a well respected coach by many who like football. 240 quid for him for two hours, I doubt it very much.

[firefrets]

I haven't tried to get a lesson from Stephen Hendry but I bet if you asked him he would probably say you would be better off going to Terry for coaching advice! He has devoted many years to coaching and try comparing the price of coaching of another working mans game like football. I wonder how much it would cost to hire the say Alex Ferguson for 2 hours ( I use him as an example although I will be the first to admit I know nothing about football or their managers, suffice to say he is also a well respected coach by many who like football. 240 quid for him for two hours, I doubt it very much.

How much do you earn a week Mick?

Please don't try to justify £120 per hour coaching session. I coach people for free, and no, they aren't missing out on anything. £120 is expensive bud.

[mick.hinde]

Where are you, I need all the help I can get for free at the moment! I agree that it is expensive, don't get me wrong. I am a house husband and work part time so money is very tight. My 2 hours were my 40th birthday present from all of my family put together, so no I could not afford it personally. However, it was right up there with the day I got married in terms of life's great days and better value than anything else I have ever had. (apart from the missus of course- she may read this!)

[tcollick]

firefrets, i think you're being a bit harsh.
Its a ton of money, but if someone said they'd buy your cue (for example) for 1000GBP, you wouldn't say no, make it 500. You'd be mad to. Theres a market for everything and thats where he's priced his. As for listing his accomplishments against Hendrys, thats just petty aint it.
Take the Fergie example above, does that mean John Barnes is a better manager cos he did so much more as a player. erm...no.

[firefrets]

firefrets, i think you're being a bit harsh.
Its a ton of money, but if someone said they'd buy your cue (for example) for 1000GBP, you wouldn't say no, make it 500. You'd be mad to. Theres a market for everything and thats where he's priced his. As for listing his accomplishments against Hendrys, thats just petty aint it.
Take the Fergie example above, does that mean John Barnes is a better manager cos he did so much more as a player. erm...no.

I don't know if it's harsh to be honest bud. I didn't rate Griffiths that highly as a player to be fair, and I think the way he belittles other coaches by offering Griffiths accredited coaching courses is rather arrogant. Who placed him in the high chair to proclaim grandeur in such a way?

Only my opinion though, and I'm sure it differs to many.

[tcollick]

Thats fair enough mate, valid opinion and as someone coaching at the grass roots level for free, I can see why it would get up your nose. But the way I see it he has a great reputation as a coach, built up a strong brand and is using it to its best potential (for the people who can afford it). But surely he coaches some juniors groups for a lot less, or even voluntarily. I hope he does anyway..giving something back and all that.

[Giggity1984]

Some people charge too much for stuff. Some people pay it because they believe it to be worth it.

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

[thinsy]

If you can buy a Skoda for £12,000 why would anyone spend £120,000 on an Aston Martin?

Because one is better than the other (and is an Aston Martin really worth that much? Maybe not but you'd rather walk into the club saying you owned an Aston Martin rather than a Skoda!!)

Frank Callan didn't win anything!!! He has always been considered as one of the greatest coaches though.

Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.

[firefrets]

Thats fair enough mate, valid opinion and as someone coaching at the grass roots level for free, I can see why it would get up your nose. But the way I see it hes built up a decent brand and is using it to its best potential (for the people who can afford it). But surely he coaches some juniors groups for a lot less, or even voluntarily. I hope he does anyway..giving something back and all that.

That's my point mate.

It's ironic though how I coach for free, yet am accused of ripping people off in the Baldock tip thread. Griffiths built a brand based on the mutual appreciation society that is the snooker A list. The best coach for me is Peter Loch by a mile, and even Frank Callan was popular, but Griffiths will always get the nod, because of who his mates are. If he does cheap lessons then fair play, but his website doesn't offer anything that I can see.

[firefrets]

Some people charge too much for stuff. Some people pay it because they believe it to be worth it.

http://www.thesnookerforum.com/board...ad.php?t=30794

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Another pathetic attempt to discredit. What is it with people like you? £4 is not expensive for an antique tip. Just because I was selling a whole batch at trade folks get the shivers. I put far more in to the game than the game 'ever' gave me, so don't even go there mate. I'm even in discussion about opening a snooker school so that people can have access to the game as well as coaching, for free, but heck, you didn't know that did you? You're too busy trying to discredit me.