How to act while waiting for your shot

[char]

Played again last night.

I'm really starting to see a change in my game by just being positive on every shot. And staying positive if I miss it.

My usual practice partner has had a bit of a kicking this week. (lost 8 on the bounce)

He asked me for some advice, I just said stay focused and confident. I told him I had not changed anything with my game except my mental attitude. I'm not saying I ran away with every frame (far from it) but I didn't let one bad shot stay on my mind. I moved on and waited my turn expecting to get it next time.

thanks again guys

[sydneygeorge]

Well spoken,we all have a responsibility to the Game.

[sydneygeorge]

DONT Leave your chalk on the edge of the table keep it in a pouch or magnetic chalk holder, If you must go to the toilet inform your opponent at sensible lull in the game (dont just bugger off) Try to conduct yourself like a professional manner its amazing how this can rub off on others I find that even some of the young tear-aways like playing me because of my old fashion ideas of conduct, to quote one youngster "Well it feels important like on Telly and you have played a real game" My worst hate is players who take the dignity out of the game with loud talk and swearing, mobile phones, and other distractions (Am I getting old) No I just love the game.

Sorry, I mean't to attach my comment to this quote.

[MikeWooldridge]

And I am a city and guilds qualified wood machinist who has never made a snooker cue and therefore bow to your expertise in cue making. How come you can't do the same with people who are far more knowledgeable than you, such as Freud and Yung, about a subject you have merely dabbled with.
Freud was a coke head and a bit of a perv was he ? That's interesting coming from someone who makes phallic symbols/penis extensions for a living, which could possibly be a Freudian analysis and therefore explain your rejection of his theories.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm9o_9goUAM


Rubbing down those shafts everyday Sir Ooohh rubbing oil into those shafts everyday Sir OOhh suits you Sir
Look at the grain on that shaft Sir, doesn't it remind you of VEINS Sir OOoohh suits you Sir.

This is really important to you isn't it? Wonder what a psychologist would say about that...

Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong.

Either way, it's irrelevant cos there is no 'answer', only theories.

You believe what you have read, and in this instance I don't.

Btw, my drummer has a psychology degree. He is single.

[nrage]

b*ll*cks.

didn't you ever see linford christie in the 100m?

will to win has nothing to do how big (small) your d*ck is, OR your height.

Dead right.

It's a case of A implies B, but B does not imply A. (A)"Small man syndrome" is an observable phenomenon, but not every (B)"short person" (short in either respect) exhibits it.

Likewise (A)"Small man syndrome" implies (B)"Will to win" (or perhaps more accurately, "need to prove something"), but again (B) does not imply (A).

but you are right on one count - alpha male. that's all it boils down to, a natural drive some people are born with, but most are not.

Yep, will to win is the thing however you come to have it.

[denja]

Played again last night.

I'm really starting to see a change in my game by just being positive on every shot. And staying positive if I miss it.

My usual practice partner has had a bit of a kicking this week. (lost 8 on the bounce)

He asked me for some advice, I just said stay focused and confident. I told him I had not changed anything with my game except my mental attitude. I'm not saying I ran away with every frame (far from it) but I didn't let one bad shot stay on my mind. I moved on and waited my turn expecting to get it next time.

thanks again guys

If you can stay cool when the guy you are playing flukes 4 shots one after the other you are getting there.

[vmax4steve]

Dead right.

It's a case of A implies B, but B does not imply A. (A)"Small man syndrome" is an observable phenomenon, but not every (B)"short person" (short in either respect) exhibits it.

Likewise (A)"Small man syndrome" implies (B)"Will to win" (or perhaps more accurately, "need to prove something"), but again (B) does not imply (A).



Yep, will to win is the thing however you come to have it.

Yes I know all that nrage, but rather than just dismiss someone like Alex Higgins as an arsehole I try to understand why people like him behave in the way they do. Why are some good losers while others are not ? Why is an alpha male an alpha male ? Why is a beta male a beta male ? Why is a submissive a submissive ?
All these things are of interest to me so I looked into it through psychology and found some revealing answers. The most EXTREME examples of alpha males are those with short bloke/penis syndrome who also had a pretty terrible upbringing, like Adolph Hitler. I haven't got the room or the time to go into detail about Hitlers childhood and its effect as the cause of his psychosis but it's available for those who are interested and explains a lot.
Testoserone also has an awful lot to do with it especially prenatal levels in the womb which also affects an individuals sexuality and can be the cause of gender dysfunction.
Everybody is different for a reason and I happen to want to know those reasons rather than live in ignorance.

[vmax4steve]

This is really important to you isn't it? Wonder what a psychologist would say about that...

It's not that important Mike, I just find it really interesting. Let me point you in the direction of a very good film about the subject.
The Hill made in 1965, directed by Sidney Lumet (Twelve Angry Men) and starring Sean Connery, Harry Andrews and Ian Bannen. It examines the male psyche in the setting of a military prison during WW2 and can be seen as a metaphor for society, country and empire.
Sean Connery describes it as a film that everyone must see, probably his finest hour as an actor.

[nrage]

Yes I know all that nrage, but rather than just dismiss someone like Alex Higgins as an arsehole I try to understand why people like him behave in the way they do. Why are some good losers while others are not ? Why is an alpha male an alpha male ? Why is a beta male a beta male ? Why is a submissive a submissive ?
All these things are of interest to me so I looked into it through psychology and found some revealing answers. The most EXTREME examples of alpha males are those with short bloke/penis syndrome who also had a pretty terrible upbringing, like Adolph Hitler. I haven't got the room or the time to go into detail about Hitlers childhood and its effect as the cause of his psychosis but it's available for those who are interested and explains a lot.
Testoserone also has an awful lot to do with it especially prenatal levels in the womb which also affects an individuals sexuality and can be the cause of gender dysfunction.
Everybody is different for a reason and I happen to want to know those reasons rather than live in ignorance.

Fair enough. It seems to me that you and Mike aren't actually disagreeing. He's saying people don't have to have small man syndrome, just a desire to win. You're saying small man syndrome gives people a desire to win. Neither argument contradicts the other.

[denja]

In a ideal world we expect at our great sportsmen and Women, Artists in Painting and Music, The Stage, Film, in fact anybody who has made it big in their chosen life to be great examples of modesty, example to others, and great role models, but lets face it life just aint like that some of the greatest people in history have been complete *******s

[vmax4steve]

Fair enough. It seems to me that you and Mike aren't actually disagreeing. He's saying people don't have to have small man syndrome, just a desire to win. You're saying small man syndrome gives people a desire to win. Neither argument contradicts the other.

No, I'm saying small man syndrome is one reason why, not the only reason. When I say that a sore loser has a small penis it's a generalisation of a truth that something is lacking. Metaphor if you like, like the bible, not to be taken literally.

[MikeWooldridge]

No, I'm saying small man syndrome is one reason why, not the only reason. When I say that a sore loser has a small penis it's a generalisation of a truth that something is lacking. Metaphor if you like, like the bible, not to be taken literally.

is that your way of saying you were wrong?

difficult to tell with all these metaphors flying about...

just one thing, hitler was a little over 5'8" i believe. apparently taller than the average german male of the time.

don't forget he only had one ball though, so i expect that made him angrier than all the short germans put together

[nrage]

No, I'm saying small man syndrome is one reason why, not the only reason. When I say that a sore loser has a small penis it's a generalisation of a truth that something is lacking. Metaphor if you like, like the bible, not to be taken literally.

Understood. I wasn't trying to imply you thought it was the /only/ reason, nor was Mike trying to say it wasn't a reason (from my reading of his post). Basically, no-one here is in disagreement except perhaps about whether making generalisations is a good idea.

Also... I thought we were talking about "desire to win" not "sore losers" .. generally speaking a sore loser is someone who has a desire to win, but not everyone with a desire to win is a sore loser. A prime example of this are todays top pros, all of them have a desire to win, and many of them have shown themselves to be a sore loser at one time or another, but most are pretty good about it most of the time (at least in public).

[vmax4steve]

Understood. I wasn't trying to imply you thought it was the /only/ reason, nor was Mike trying to say it wasn't a reason (from my reading of his post). Basically, no-one here is in disagreement except perhaps about whether making generalisations is a good idea.

Also... I thought we were talking about "desire to win" not "sore losers" .. generally speaking a sore loser is someone who has a desire to win, but not everyone with a desire to win is a sore loser. A prime example of this are todays top pros, all of them have a desire to win, and many of them have shown themselves to be a sore loser at one time or another, but most are pretty good about it most of the time (at least in public).

My reading of the first post told me that char was in fact a sore loser, it was denja who put will to win into the mix.

[char]

I suppose it might have been taken as me being a sore loser. I don't think I was.

Its the flukes I was finding annoying. I always say good shot and well played if its deserved.

Denja has changed my mind set, I now approach the table with a positive attitude. Which has made an impact on how I'm playing and enjoying the game..