Eye Dominance, Sighting and the Cue

[pottr]

Bit of a contradiction there pottr.

20/20 is average for a healthy person

at 20/16 and 20/12.5 my eyesight score is better than the 20/20 average, but by no means exceptional.

I think it means I can see definition at 20 feet what the average person could not see beyond 16 feet, hence the score 20/16.

I fail to see the contradiction?

[Terry Davidson]

pottr:

You are far-sighted with those readings and for snooker that's a GOOD thing as you should be able to see the dust on a ball 12ft away!

It's us near-sighted people that have the serious problems and need to get corrective lenses so we can see that dust. I have my left eye with contact at 20/15 because of snooker but my right eye is a write-off

Terry

[Particle Physics]

Evening Gents. Well, this sighting change was a big thing for me yesterday, pottin em off the lampshades in practice so I was. Today, I played the team captain and wanted to impress and do well. I tried too hard for the first four frames, got tight, undid all the good work. Frame 5, and I thought, drop down use your right eye, and just pot some balls, let the cue go through. I set a goal as a newish player a few months ago, to get a 50 break within 12 months. Achieved the target 9 months early tonight, and beat my captains high break. Damn! It should have been 80. I really do think the new sighting helped, combined with all I've tried to learn and do, as advised by Terry, Nrage, Vmax, the list is long. A lot of folk have put up with me, tried to help me, and never really got annoyed, so here's a big thankyou to you all for all of your help. I really wouldn't have been able to do it without you. There's still so very much to learn, I've only just begun. As always, I'm walking in the shadow of giants, but tonight will keep me going Too much Old Rosie cider. Night all.

[vmax4steve]

20/20 is average for a healthy person

at 20/16 and 20/12.5 my eyesight score is better than the 20/20 average, but by no means exceptional.

I think it means I can see definition at 20 feet what the average person could not see beyond 16 feet, hence the score 20/16.

I fail to see the contradiction?

My understanding is that 20/20 is perfect vision not average, while readings that are less are less than perfect. If this is wrong then my apologies.

My own prescription is as follows

R -1..........5.0 ..........+2.0 .........+1.5
.................................................. ................11.0
L -1.........175.0.........+2.0..........+1.5

...........H-Dist............V-Dist........H-Near......V-Near[/B]


What the hell that means I don't know except that without my glasses/contact lenses I can only make out detail within an arms length, I can read and that's about it, with my glasses/contact lenses I can make out detail beyond an arms length, I can't see to read but anything further away is clear.
I do have trouble under artificial light though which is why daylight bulbs are so much better for snooker.

[Particle Physics]

My understanding is that 20/20 is perfect vision not average, while readings that are less are less than perfect. If this is wrong then my apologies.

My own prescription is as follows

R -1..........5.0 ..........+2.0 .........+1.5
.................................................. ................11.0
L -1.........175.0.........+2.0..........+1.5

...........H-Dist............V-Dist........H-Near......V-Near[/B]


What the hell that means I don't know except that without my glasses/contact lenses I can only make out detail within an arms length, I can read and that's about it, with my glasses/contact lenses I can make out detail beyond an arms length, I can't see to read but anything further away is clear.
I do have trouble under artificial light though which is why daylight bulbs are so much better for snooker.

20/20 is very rare. Vmax, what do you think of the Dennis Taylor glasses, have you tried them?

[pottr]

My understanding is that 20/20 is perfect vision not average, while readings that are less are less than perfect. If this is wrong then my apologies.

No offense taken brother. I harboured under the same impression too until my future mother in law put me firmly in my place, lol

What the hell that means I don't know

I couldn't tell you either, all greek to me. We're around there for tea tonight so I will show her and ask her to decipher it for us.

I do have trouble under artificial light though which is why daylight bulbs are so much better for snooker.

I am the same. Takes me a while for my eyes to adjust to the lights, almost as if there were a film across them... Frustrating.

[nrage]

The wiki page is illuminating:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_acuity

The short answer..

A vision of 20/20 is considered nominal performance for human distance vision. A vision of 20/40 is considered half as good as nominal performance. A vision of 20/10 is considered twice as good as nominal performance.

also..

In other words, 20/20 vision or 6/6 vision does not necessarily correspond to the best possible visual acuity a subject may achieve, but once this standard is attained the subject is considered to have achieved "normal" visual acuity.

[pottr]

So pretty much what I said yesterday muppets x

[cantpotforshíte]

Evening Gents. Well, this sighting change was a big thing for me yesterday, pottin em off the lampshades in practice so I was. Today, I played the team captain and wanted to impress and do well. I tried too hard for the first four frames, got tight, undid all the good work. Frame 5, and I thought, drop down use your right eye, and just pot some balls, let the cue go through. I set a goal as a newish player a few months ago, to get a 50 break within 12 months. Achieved the target 9 months early tonight, and beat my captains high break. Damn! It should have been 80. I really do think the new sighting helped, combined with all I've tried to learn and do, as advised by Terry, Nrage, Vmax, the list is long. A lot of folk have put up with me, tried to help me, and never really got annoyed, so here's a big thankyou to you all for all of your help. I really wouldn't have been able to do it without you. There's still so very much to learn, I've only just begun. As always, I'm walking in the shadow of giants, but tonight will keep me going Too much Old Rosie cider. Night all.

Well done to you mate. And we all thought that you were massively over-analysing and due to get nowhere fast! Just goes to show...

Also, hitting your target so early should take a lot of pressure off you. All you need to do now is stick to your technique, and don't think about the breaks. Just watch them happen.

[Particle Physics]

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Cheers buddy. It did feel like a release I must admit. I knew I could pot balls, especially after changing my sighting, so I was over the moon to do it in a match. It is easy to overanalyse things and didn't folk need different levels of analysis I guess. There's also the issue of using effective analysis, that leads to results, as opposed to just thinking about everything and making things worse on the table. That analysis can destroy confidence and enjoyment. One has to be careful to think about changes, where there's a belief that change could make things better. If not, leave alone.

You're right about not thinking about breaks and we all have this thing where the other player counts the break in our heads, so there's no pressure and expectation coming into play.

However, and Terry will do his nut in, I think I've found another change that may help. Eeeek!

[cantpotforshíte]

However, and Terry will do his nut in, I think I've found another change that may help my game. Eeeek!

I thought this might happen

Just make sure to only change one thing at a time: Your mind can only really concentrate on one thing at any moment, and also if you're trying to change several things at once, it won't be clear which change is actually causing the improvement/regression.

[Particle Physics]

I thought this might happen

Just make sure to only change one thing at a time: Your mind can only really concentrate on one thing at any moment, and also if you're trying to change several things at once, it won't be clear which change is actually causing the improvement/regression.

Lol. Your website and business looks quite interesting. Engineers are ok I guess.

[Manu147]

I think the point is being missed here, even players who are standing directly behind the shot are still subconciously choosing the line in which they see the shot best, this in 95% of cases is not in the middle of their two eyes, they may be using their two eyes while standing up aiming but when the head is dropped down it tends to favour sighting subconciously with the dominant eye, in a test on 15 of my local club players all who favoured one side of the chin or another to some extent, the side they favoured coinincided in all 15 cases with a simple eye dominance test i did with them all, in most cases they were unaware that they were favouring one side or another. From this it also explains why nearly all top players are favouring one side or another to some extent, and the reason most top coaches go along wuth this principle, so trying to play centre of the chin just for the sake of it, can lead to all sorts of sighting issues.

[alabadi]

20/20 is very rare. Vmax, what do you think of the Dennis Taylor glasses, have you tried them?

i had bad vision in my right eye, however after lens corrective surgey i now have 20/20 vision or better , i asked my opthomologist what does 20/20 mean and he says these are the recommendations used for driving by the government.

then he said i have better vision than that, so i guess 20/20 is just a guideline for the eccepted vision for driving.

Alabbadi

[Manu147]

20/40 is widely accepted as the requirement for driving, 20/20 is what most opticians are trying to correct ur eyesight too, as this is regarded as what the average person has, but 20/40 vision means u can still read a no plate from twenty metres which ur instructor asks before a test.