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    Hi guys, i was wondering if there are any ways to lock the elbow and keep it from moving inwards during the backswing. I've found that if my elbow moved inwards during the backswing it will result in my elbow dropping inwards during the follow through as well. I could pot some decent balls when my elbow could stay locked, yet when my elbow moves, i can miss the most easy of shots. I have a loose grip and plcould occasionaly make 4x - 5x breaks when playing with friends. I would really like to improve on that. Thanks!

  • #2
    Unfortunately you just have to practice, practice, practice.
    "Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error"
    - Linus Pauling

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    • #3
      reactant:

      You are in pretty good company as Hendry used to do this but he needed perfect coordination to keep the cue delivering straight.

      To minimize this problem it will take some very hard work as it sounds as if you have ingrained it and it's become natural to you. Assuming you're right-handed, try and get the left armpit down as far as you can, ideally down to table level. This has the opposite effect on the right shoulder and raises it and it you keep your upper body still it will help to lock the right shoulder socket, which is where your problem is originating. Also try and get the LEFT shoulder over towards your left cheek as far as you can (look at some videos of the pros toe get the idea).

      At the same time try and move the right shoulder as far as you can in behind the head when viewed from straight on. This again should help to lock that right shoulder socket in place. Although not 'textbook' also LIFT THE ELBOW up as high as you can even if it means pulling the cue into the chest. (Try flexing the cue by lifting the right elbow up as high as you can and have the chest and chin against the cue so it flexes a bit, which is Judd Trump's trick). Raising that elbow up as high as you can should stabilize the elbow in space but you will have to do what nrage advises and practice, practice and more practice until you break the old bad habit.

      Terry
      Terry Davidson
      IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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      • #4
        Thanks for the advise Terry! i will defintely try those out once i am on the pratice table and do what nrage advises..pratice , pratice and pratice.haha

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by reactant View Post
          Hi guys, i was wondering if there are any ways to lock the elbow and keep it from moving inwards during the backswing. I've found that if my elbow moved inwards during the backswing it will result in my elbow dropping inwards during the follow through as well. I could pot some decent balls when my elbow could stay locked, yet when my elbow moves, i can miss the most easy of shots. I have a loose grip and plcould occasionaly make 4x - 5x breaks when playing with friends. I would really like to improve on that. Thanks!
          Whether your grip is open or closed, tight or loose, make sure your 'V' is sitting above the imaginary line of centre on the butt. If you don't have the 'V' above the centre, there is a tendency for the grip hand to push out to the right on the backswing if you have a V position before 12 o'clock, which pushes the elbow inwards on the foreswing. As a result, the cue can go offline and you can miss the shot.
          Last edited by Particle Physics; 26 July 2012, 07:59 AM.
          Harder than you think is a beautiful thing.

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by Particle Physics View Post
            Whether your grip is open or closed, tight or loose, make sure your 'V' is sitting above the imaginary line of centre on the butt. If you don't have the 'V' above the centre, there is a tendency for the grip hand to push out to the right on the backswing if you have a V position before 12 o'clock, which pushes the elbow inwards on the foreswing. As a result, the cue can go offline and you can miss the shot.
            I think John Higgins does wot terry says - his left arm pushes out creating a sort of pivot effect whereby his right shoulder is forced backwards. Have been trying to this myself.
            Highest Match Break 39 (November 10th 2015)

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            • #7
              That is correct armstm. If a player can push his left shoulder out as far as he comfortably can and down as far as he comfortably can this will have the opposite effect on the right shoulder (unless he's double-jointed or something) and bring it up and in behind the head.

              Joe Davis achieved this by 'thrusting' out his left arm and keeping it ramrod straight however that's not really necessary as it is the left shoulder SOCKET that needs to be 'thrust' forward and down.

              Terry
              Terry Davidson
              IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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              • #8
                Huh, never really thought about my sholders all that much. I focused more on my hips when breaking that's about it. I've kept it simple, keep my forarm the only thing that really moves when shooting. I'll have to keep that in mind tomorrow at the pool hall.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                  reactant:

                  You are in pretty good company as Hendry used to do this but he needed perfect coordination to keep the cue delivering straight.

                  To minimize this problem it will take some very hard work as it sounds as if you have ingrained it and it's become natural to you. Assuming you're right-handed, try and get the left armpit down as far as you can, ideally down to table level. This has the opposite effect on the right shoulder and raises it and it you keep your upper body still it will help to lock the right shoulder socket, which is where your problem is originating. Also try and get the LEFT shoulder over towards your left cheek as far as you can (look at some videos of the pros toe get the idea).

                  At the same time try and move the right shoulder as far as you can in behind the head when viewed from straight on. This again should help to lock that right shoulder socket in place. Although not 'textbook' also LIFT THE ELBOW up as high as you can even if it means pulling the cue into the chest. (Try flexing the cue by lifting the right elbow up as high as you can and have the chest and chin against the cue so it flexes a bit, which is Judd Trump's trick). Raising that elbow up as high as you can should stabilize the elbow in space but you will have to do what nrage advises and practice, practice and more practice until you break the old bad habit.

                  Terry
                  Help please, i missed straight yellow off it spot to clear up for 147. Snap my cue and cannot fined a new one.

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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted by iphone View Post
                    Help please, i missed straight yellow off it spot to clear up for 147. Snap my cue and cannot fined a new one.
                    Yea, I do that every session, it's a real bum...
                    JP Majestic
                    3/4
                    57"
                    17oz
                    9.5mm Elk

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