Holding the cue right at the end of the butt vs an inch or so before the end.

[snooks1000]

If you have a mini butt with it screw it in and experiment with moving the hand beyond the end of the butt to find a good length for you.

Good idea. Although I dont have a mini butt. I'm getting used to it so I guess it's just practice and adapting

[Inoffthered]

Holding the cue up the butt is more solid, largely because the grip can change so that the heel of the hand comes down on the chamfer.

This is so true ( for me at least ) and this causes side wobble and my elbow to drop 'too much'.

[Inoffthered]

You don't know if you don't do it. Don't cost much time really, and it's snooker education at the empirical level. Let us know if it sticks.

Feeling the sincerity..

[throtts]

throtts:

When I learned to play snooker I had a Brunswick Trophy cue, which was maple and was pretty whippy. In those days almost every Canadian player would have a Trophy cue if he could afford it. I believe my most natural technique is likely to be towards a medium flex cue but most of the cues made today (unless custom ordered) come at medium-stiff or even stiff and now a lot of players are convinced stiff is what they want.

Bill Werbeniuk(SP?) used a Trophy cue which I believe had been sanded down to make it even more whippy and he was a very strong long ball potter and also had good control when in the balls, even on the heavier British cloths in those days. He was known for his power and accuracy.

I also believe Judd Trump's cue is fairly whippy, probably medium flex and I think Ronnie's is the same way but I'm not sure as you can only really tell by using the cue.

Terry

Thank you, Terry. That pretty much answers my next question regarding JP Majestic, it's 57 inch long and weighs 17.5 oz, with a 9.5 elk, so quite standard really. Therefore I take it it is medium stiff to outright stiff.

My grip use to be right on the end literally, so much so I could feel my last 2 fingers hanging off the cue. However, somehow my grip has inched up, I said 4 to 5 inch on another thread but I think it's around 3 inch from the end. Just trying to find the happy medium. And having said that, when playing well and in the zone I do not really stop and think "hang on" what's going correctly right now, everything seems so natural. I think the top pros do alter the grip position pending on where they are, as vmax stated..

Cheers, Terry.

[throtts]

Played yesterday evening with the grip around 3 inch from the end of the butt along with my square stance. As Terry mentioned somewhere, it definitely brings ones head closer to the cue ball and in around the black and pink it seems to gives you more control..

No more changes from me, I will stick to this now. And with super loose grip obviously pushing through the cue ball..