RH Cueing to the left

[Terry Davidson]

denja:

It means you must try to go through the cueball as if it wasn't there or in more precise terms you must keep accelerating the cue through the cueball AND BEYOND IT until your grip hand hits your chest

[Terry Davidson]

I should also correct my post above where I say 'the first pads of the 4 fingers'. I took a look at my hand and it should read 'the MIDDLE pads of the inside 2 fingers and the first joint of the forefinger and baby finger'. I hope no one got screwed up by that as the first pads are too close to the fingertips and should actually be curled around the butt of the cue to form the bed the cue lays in

[Suke]

RH Cueing to the left

may I ask why the wrist should be cocked outward ?

[x3dnd3x]

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The 2 photos show the wrist cock from the side and rear as explained. (I just have the butt in my hand and am not in the address position)

Wouldn't this grip feel uncomfortable?

[nrage]

Wouldn't this grip feel uncomfortable?

Have you tried it?

[x3dnd3x]

Have you tried it?

Nope. I'm wondering whether it would feel uncomfortable.

[nrage]

Nope. I'm wondering whether it would feel uncomfortable.

It's not. But, you'll have to take my word for it, until you try it

Seriously tho, it would depend on the rest of your stance, for example it /could/ be uncomfortable if your elbow hung a long way outside the line of aim.

[vmax4steve]

I also tend not to look at the object ball when striking and can visibly see the cue turning to the left during/after strking. After impact the cue always turns to the left noticeably.

Snooker is about hand and eye co-ordination, unless you address this no matter what else you do to your cue action you will not improve. The hand follows the eye, you have to look at the part of the object ball the cue ball needs to hit at the moment you strike the cue ball otherwise the hand will follow something that you are looking at and the cue ball will go there instead.

UNDERSTAND THIS PRINCIPAL BEFORE ALL OTHERS, THIS IS SOMETHING ALL THE TOP PLAYERS HAVE IN COMMON DESPITE HAVING DIFFERENT STANCES AND GRIPS.

[throtts]

I agree,

I had this pot last night that was catching me out and to combat the problem I reverted to the old back of the ball method (BOB). I was hitting the angle in all the time at the start of practice but towards the end I just could not seen to see the correct point of contact, everything else in practice was fantastic. So yes I agree.

Also, the positioning of ones hips can be very important for correct cueing.

[Giggity1984]

I remember reading on Mark Williams' Twitter that he looks at the cue ball on delivery. If you watch him on youtube I think this is true. Higgins seems to do it as well.

Personally I find that I'm more consistent whem I look at the OB, but I do find myself slipping back into bad habits sometimes and staring at the cueball. lol.

[vmax4steve]

I remember reading on Mark Williams' Twitter that he looks at the cue ball on delivery. If you watch him on youtube I think this is true.

I'm willing to bet that he doesn't. He may be looking at the cue ball at the end of the backstroke but at the actual moment of contact with the cue ball he will be looking at the object ball. He has to be for the object ball is the target, not the cue ball and you can hit the cue ball every time with the tip of the cue and be said to have hit the target, but the object ball might be missed altogether.
Also he is as guilty as anyone else at taking his eyes off the pot and missing the odd easy one as a result. If he only looked at the cue ball on contact then this surely wouldn't happen.

[02aleric]

most top players do look at the OB at moment of strike, but there are one or two exceptions. As previosuly said, Mark Williams has stated on twitter and other mediums that he looks and the cueball and in his own words he "doesn't care if people think it's wrong". Personally i can't understand how anyone could stare at the cueball at point of contact, makes no sense to me. Howver, i have a friend who is a decent player who also stares at the cueball, i've tried to get him to change to improve but he can't seem to do it! Interesting topic! In my opinion darts is about the closest analogy i can think of, you wouldn't see a darts player staring at the end of his dart to ensure he draws the dart back in a straight line!

[throtts]

I look from cb to ob, then ob on the strike. I also very briefly check tip position on the cb, but as I say, its very briefly.

[Reptile1]

Snooker is about hand and eye co-ordination, unless you address this no matter what else you do to your cue action you will not improve. The hand follows the eye, you have to look at the part of the object ball the cue ball needs to hit at the moment you strike the cue ball otherwise the hand will follow something that you are looking at and the cue ball will go there instead.

UNDERSTAND THIS PRINCIPAL BEFORE ALL OTHERS, THIS IS SOMETHING ALL THE TOP PLAYERS HAVE IN COMMON DESPITE HAVING DIFFERENT STANCES AND GRIPS.

Great advice Steve how often do players like myself practice technique and then forget this "PRINCIPAL" as they are too busy thinking of other things?

[alabadi]

Personally i can't understand how anyone could stare at the cueball at point of contact, makes no sense to me. Howver, i have a friend who is a decent player who also stares at the cueball, i've tried to get him to change to improve but he can't seem to do it! Interesting topic! In my opinion darts is about the closest analogy i can think of, you wouldn't see a darts player staring at the end of his dart to ensure he draws the dart back in a straight line!

i have heard a lot of people saying that golf is close to snooker in a technical way, however a golfer would be looking at the golf ball on strike and not the hole. but still make the pot.

Alabbadi