deep screw shot

[shazneo]

hey guys.
i'm new here.still a newbie to snooker i would say (not even break of 30)
but i really love long potting.i would say about 5/10 hahaha
my question is how can i deep screw it like trump.most of my shot will stop the ball.sometimes it will reverse with side.only one time i managed to screw it.but just a little bit.

does the type of carpet affect the screw, or i dont hve enuff power ?
cheers.

[j6uk]

Welcome shaz. Do you have your own table?

[magicman]

You're not yet good enough to deep screw the ball as you would like to. The thickness of the cloth you're playing on probably doesn't help, but the truth is that to deep screw a ball requires excellent cueing and timing combined. A person with a high break of thirty simply doesn't have the combination of those two things as of yet.

[denja]

hey guys.
i'm new here.still a newbie to snooker i would say (not even break of 30)
but i really love long potting.i would say about 5/10 hahaha
my question is how can i deep screw it like trump.most of my shot will stop the ball.sometimes it will reverse with side.only one time i managed to screw it.but just a little bit.

does the type of carpet affect the screw, or i dont hve enuff power ?
cheers.

Practise ! Practise ! Practise ! Start with cue ball about 1 ft away from object ball striking at 6 o clock you must follow through imagine you are trying to strike the object ball through the cue ball be content to screw back just a small amount to begin with and once you are confident try to progress a greater distance. One mistake many players make is hitting the cue ball too hard its about control and follow through not loads of power.

[shazneo]

Welcome shaz. Do you have your own table?

no i dont,just playing at snooker centre.

You're not yet good enough to deep screw the ball as you would like to. The thickness of the cloth you're playing on probably doesn't help, but the truth is that to deep screw a ball requires excellent cueing and timing combined. A person with a high break of thirty simply doesn't have the combination of those two things as of yet.

yes, i do realise that.any good exercise that will help me thru it ?

Practise ! Practise ! Practise ! Start with cue ball about 1 ft away from object ball striking at 6 o clock you must follow through imagine you are trying to strike the object ball through the cue ball be content to screw back just a small amount to begin with and once you are confident try to progress a greater distance. One mistake many players make is hitting the cue ball too hard its about control and follow through not loads of power.

thanks m8, so it not abt the power then ? it's how u follow thru it ?

[Sidd]

You need to be playing at a good level in order to try deep screws on long pots like Judd... Not all the players even in the pro circuit could do that.. we are mere mortals against them.

Besides, the quality of the table cloth greatly affects the deep screw and I can tell you this from my experience... If playing on a poor quality cloth you wont get that screw trust me even Judd would have huge trouble screwing like he does on telly.

[denja]

I am no expert ! but do not get hung up with not being able to do a DEEP SCREW shot over great distance,if you can screw back 1 ft -2ft -or 3ft it will enable you to play a good game of snooker at club level, think about ! it if you play a reasonable position round the BLACK PINK or BLUE there is seldom a need for massive SCREW BACK In fact most screw shots consist of just a few inches if you put a line of reds each side of the BLUE and pot into the center pocket you will get the idea how little SCREW you need to pot all the balls, like-wise scatter a few reds round the BLACK SPOT most shots in this area only need a SCREW BACK of a max of 2 ft or sometimes just a few inches, If you can SCREW the cue ball back into the center pocket from the BLUE spot and SCREW back the the cue ball from the BLACK SPOT to the side cushion you are well on the way to playing a good game, Ok ! strive to one day being able to play the massive DEEP SCREW but do not let it become a hang up. I may open a can of worms but I would say if you have to play a massive DEEP SCREW you must be well out of position and trying to recover.

[throtts]

To play the screw shot shazneo is on about, you have to really get your cue arm right back on the the last back swing. It's got to go back straight and come through straight, obviously.. If you are not up to skill, then good luck to the cloth, haha.

[shazneo]

does cue also affect this ? cos i've been using house cue.
given a thought on getting a prsonal cue

[denja]

does cue also affect this ? cos i've been using house cue.
given a thought on getting a prsonal cue

If the tip is crap maybe ! however I can screw back just as well with a cheapo B.C.E. Ronnie O Sullivan cue as I can with my expensive hand spliced, Your own cue is the way to go it becomes personal to you. Try different house cues in order to get some idea what you want, there are some great players who have played with off the peg bog standard cues.

[shazneo]

planning on to get a cheap cue first.baby steps.haha

LP Handmade Snooker Cue
Shaft: Ash Wood
Butt: Rosewood
Length:145cm
Weight: 17.6 oz
Tip: 9.6mm
Balance point: 42-43CM
Butt's diameter :28-29MM

[vmax4steve]

The tip is more important than the cue. It's also more important to be able to screw back accurately rather than screw back a lot, ie: no good to screw back four feet if you're only trying for two as you will be out of position. Just practise hitting low on the cue ball with varying amounts of power, take note of the effect you get and keep practising and you should get better.
What Sidd says is true, the pros play on the very best heated tables using ultra fine fast cloths and brand new balls, Trump would be hard pressed to stop the cue ball from long distance on the cloth and conditions that I play on let alone screw back to baulk.

[throtts]

Trump would be hard pressed to stop the cue ball from long distance on the cloth and conditions that I play on let alone screw back to baulk.

Not so sure on that, Steve. There technique is such that some of them could fizz it back. With there huge long final draw back and fast acceleration through the cue ball makes that a hard call to say that they couldn't.

What makes them really stand out on these power screws though is how still they keep there upper body and head, you can see how dead they are even on a slow motion play back.

[j6uk]

Like the way you put that, yes unless you've stood by the table and watched the likes of Judd playing week in and out you'll never truly appreciate how high they have got in crafting this game. There whole body from toes to their finger tips are unison to push that cue through machine like..

Not so sure on that, Steve. There technique is such that some of them could fizz it back. With there huge long final draw back and fast acceleration through the cue ball makes that a hard call to say that they couldn't.

What makes them really stand out on these power screws though is how still they keep there upper body and head, you can see how dead they are even on a slow motion play back.

[vmax4steve]

Not so sure on that, Steve. Their technique is such that some of them could fizz it back. With there huge long final draw back and fast acceleration through the cue ball makes that a hard call to say that they couldn't.

Not in a cold snooker room after twelve months of rain in the atmosphere on a heavy cloth with dirty balls they couldn't. They might get it back to the blue but that would be a miracle.
If we get a good spring and summer this year then maybe our club tables will play half as good as the pros tables and I can get back to playing some decent snooker again. The conditions this last year have been a real trial purely because of the cold and wet weather.