Cueing too far forward?

[narl]

The main thing I notice in this is my hand seems to be cocked forwards, was stretching a bit but thats a 1 piece cue with a 19" butt and you can see how far forward the splices are. Since i'm stretching a bit the cue is at more of a sloping angle than it would be usually.

Second ones (when its done processing) is a bit of a better viewpoint, that's more or less how I play most shots, noticed im twisting the cue after playing the shot.

[nrage]

I can't see, but I don't think your grip forearm is vertical? Is it?

[narl]

I can't see, but I don't think your grip forearm is vertical? Is it?

I think it is, can't really recall from that one, theres a second video that should be live soon showing more from the side. Think ive a bit of a long bridge.

[nrage]

If you put the white on the brown spot where is your bridge hand (the cue contact point of it) relative to the 1/2 circle of the D? Recommended maximum length is 12 inches which is 1/2inch larger than the D.

[narl]

I'll have to have a look tomorrow, hard to say when im not at the table.

Caught a still grab of my arm, seems vertical enough but the hand is definitely cocked forwards

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[nrage]

These are the things ppl are going to say about your videos

- You start feathering before the cue contacts the chest/chin
- You feather very quickly
- You pull back very quickly
- You have no rear pause
- There is a tiny amount of head movement on the shot, but I think it starts on contact with the white
- You don't stay down on the shot very long

[narl]

When im just knocking the balls about on the table I seem to get progressively faster if im potting well and usually I keep potting at that speed. When playing actual snooker I usually have 3 "waggles" at the white before cracking it, been trying the slow pull back along with trying to sight down the centre of my chin but not having much luck, been cueing slightly towards under my left eye for a good while now, tried the other night to get it re-centered and it was comical how much I was missing.

The rear pause is something I've never been able to do, generally have a front pause but with a rear pause I seem to kill the white instead of it reacting how I want.

[j6uk]

Your a natural potter narl! Have you thought about seeing a coach and trying to play, sorry but I can't find a better word, well!?

[vmax4steve]

You follow through too much I believe, Terry says follow through to the chest but you follow through to your chin, dropping your elbow from the shoulder too much and possibly too soon.

[buddfridgeman]

Hi, the basics are there, for what its worth , I am sorting my game out and starting to find some form, like you I was twisting and moving on my shots..i guess its been going on years..I have managed to get rid of the twist , that was very hard and slow, I changed my grip but for me it didnt work..so I worked hard with what I had and improved it with a slow straight back swing and really staying still after delivery..for me anyway staying still was the most important thing of all , its still early days but things are getting much better......my thought is this if the cue pulls back straight and pushes through straight and you can keep still with consistancey ..you will improve...I have been doing so much tinkering and made the game hard....my advice keep these 3 things in mind and keep things simple...keep straight keep still and keep relaxed..hope it helps...

.short vid of me this week..9 months I was struggling to make a thiry break and was ready to pack it all in.


http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/bu...0fe30.mp4.html

[nrage]

You follow through too much I believe, Terry says follow through to the chest but you follow through to your chin, dropping your elbow from the shoulder too much and possibly too soon.

@vmax Very true.

@narl The grip and action is very Ronnie O'Sullivan like, but it's important to realise even Ronnie doesn't follow through that far on 97%+ of his shots simply because the power you get from it isn't required most of the time, and because this kind of follow through can introduce movement - because it's harder to control. I realise you've only shown us a couple of shots, do you play all your shots like this or does this just happen to be one where you do this?

[nrage]

.short vid of me this week..9 months I was struggling to make a thiry break and was ready to pack it all in.
http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/bu...0fe30.mp4.html

You're also starting the feathers before the chin contacts the cue, this is slightly risky IMO. On your backswing there is a little bit of lifting, but it looks a lot like what Dell would recommend so probably no issue there .. but it did look to me like it might be lifting your head slightly - just from the pressure of the cue on the chin.

[buddfridgeman]

You're also starting the feathers before the chin contacts the cue, this is slightly risky IMO. On your backswing there is a little bit of lifting, but it looks a lot like what Dell would recommend so probably no issue there .. but it did look to me like it might be lifting your head slightly - just from the pressure of the cue on the chin.

cheers mate thats exactly what I am looking for, for about six weeks all been about getting the head still, I am almost there..once I can do this with out thinking but importantly with out forgetting I will address other issues, honestly the start of the season I couldnt pot a ball ..so its about learning all over again...good luck mate , I will look at that thanks..

[nrage]

cheers mate thats exactly what I am looking for, for about six weeks all been about getting the head still, I am almost there..once I can do this with out thinking but importantly with out forgetting I will address other issues, honestly the start of the season I couldnt pot a ball ..so its about learning all over again...good luck mate , I will look at that thanks..

Other than those minor points you cue action looks very good to me. Measured, deliberate and controlled.

[Sidd]

This is an important thread to me as well. I think i also follow through too much and the reason perhaps is that I always thought i wasnt following through properly and hence got myself in to following through too much. I noticed they dont on the telly and hence did a thread like "can you follow through too much?" but did not get satisfactory answers cuz i could not upload a clip alongside the thread.

Vmax, NRage and Terry: guys is that correct that one can follow through too much. I think I follow through just like this video reveals. And this might also be the reason why I sometimes get that flying / sliding cue effect on medium and slow power shots ... ???

Help !