the grip???

[thorasa]

hi mate, i do not have a couch since in my country, snooker is not very popular especially in this generation compare with other countries.
actually i come from Hong Kong and i have played snooker for around 11-12 years.

by the way, "looking for problems where there aren't any." always happens on me, another big problem for me is "TIP"

[jono*]

Hi Thor

I am also in Hong Kong. Where do you play?

[thorasa]

NT and kwl side
how about you jono?

[jono*]

I usually play in general snooker in Mk also in whampoa sometimes. You can add me on what's app and have a game

93182334

[j6uk]

I loved plying snooker in HK. Kowloon side was always the best place to play, great atmosphere, playing for money, people watching, eating and talking really loud, loved it!!

[Sidd]

WOW... And I thought I needed to learn the grip and other things in technique. If my dear mate you are getting centuries in tournaments.... you should only be focused on tackling pressure, nerve control and other things on the mental side of the game... The grip elbow etc are things for someone like me who has never scored a century; even in solo... Lucky you !!!

[Terry Davidson]

Actually, regarding this string there are a couple of points I would like to make clear:

1. If a player is running tons in matches I doubt there can be much of a grip problem. Please remember I have to teach the 'ideal' snooker technique, including the grip. The 'ideal' grip is holding the cue with the top of the forefinger and thumb with the 4 fingers forming a bed (Joe Davis) and the cue is just sitting on the bed and the pressure required to move the cue is almost nothing as you can move the cue with it just laying on the 4 fingers. However, in the backswing you will lose the back 3 fingers because the butt will (or should) push them out of the way so you maintain the hold on the cue with just the inside top of the forefinger and thumb. The forefinger should be lightly wrapped around the butt for greater control but the bottom of the forefinger DOES NOT exert any pressure whatsoever.

2. Now all that said about the 'ideal' grip you should all be aware that there are probably 16 different grips among the top 16 pros. I teach that each player should experiment with his grip a bit during solo practice and find the grip that is best for him and which allows him to positively control the cue AND ALSO (the most important thing) allows him to drive through the cueball and accelerate through the cueball. The grip must allow the player to backswing perfectly straight with no sideways movement.

In order to get the backswing straight and thus the delivery straight until after hitting the cueball the grip only acts as the end of a lever which is the forearm from the elbow. The shoulder muscle gets involved primarily on the delivery and this dropping of the elbow should not occur until well after the cueball has been struck when it becomes necessary to drop the elbow in order to keep the cue on the same plane (height of the butt over the cushion should stay at around 1" or 1 chalk height).

I've found the 'ideal' grip I teach is usually the best for most players however there is no one perfect grip that will suit every player in the world. The golden rule is the grip pressure must be maintained and kept the same THROUGHOUT the backswing and delivery with no change in pressure until it becomes necessary to stop the cue. If you can train yourself to do it and keep the pressure loose then when your grip hand drives into the chest the thumb will be squeezed by the chest over onto the butt of the cue which will then squeeze against the forefinger and you don't even have to tighten the grip to stop the cue at all. (This is VERY HARD to learn).

Somewhere on here nrage has posted a video of Nic Barrow having a student relax his grip after each shot until the cue does slide through his hand at the end of the delivery. I haven't seen it yet but I suspect it will show that you really don't have to 'grip' the cue to deliver it, just hold it lightly until after the cueball is struck.

Terry

[j6uk]

I on the other hand don't believe its very hard to learn, surprisingly As long as your: shooting from the elbow every time (and if your holding the cue to tight you can't really hit with the elbow), timing the ball well and allowing the cue to open the back of the hand up before driving through with the eye of the hand.
Oh and cue straight, straight, straight, practice on the baulk line.
Easy when you know how.

[Terry Davidson]

j6uk:

You seem to have a lot of opinions regarding various parts of technique. May I ask you what is your high break in a serious match and also your high practice break with an opponent?

Terry

[j6uk]

126,137 and back2back maxies.. and Iv always payed my own lights

[Terry Davidson]

j6uk:

You have back-to-back 147's in solo practice? That would be professional skill level or at the very least you should be entering the Q School.

Terry

[j6uk]

Yes and Iv completed fergal o'brien's advanced training program many times over. Of course that all goes out the window when you've got the dicky on and its showtime
Q school? Yeah, when I find the time lol

[throtts]

I am aiming at Q school next year if my improvement continues at the rate it has been going. That would make it only 24 months practice for me though and will be playing big knobs with around 10 years worth of proper play and proper tournament. I may well get a sore arse then from someone giving it a good kicking, haha..

[j6uk]

As long as you get a few of your own kicks-in it might be worth it

I am aiming at Q school next year if my improvement continues at the rate it has been going. That would make it only 24 months practice for me though and will be playing big knobs with around 10 years worth of proper play and proper tournament. I may well get a sore arse then from someone giving it a good kicking, haha..

[throtts]

As long as you get a few of your own kicks-in it might be worth it

It would be a good experience though, even if you / I got a good beating, it could refocus you as a player. You always get a good beating before oneself improves further..Must be some lower end players at Q school to. Have you ever watched some Q school matches and are they aired anyway at all.?..