vmax was right!

[SouthPaw]

No matter how hard I try I cant see my nose without a mirror so cant point it at anything.

Brilliant, I don't know who you are but I'm imagining you pointing your nose about aimlessly...

[j6uk]

Great pic, nice one! Eye, cue and looks to be tip of his middle finger.. I still don't know what I'd rather have, his game or his hair

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Ronnie is right handed and cues under his left eye. His nose is not on the line of aim and his nose is not pointing at the object ball.

If the idea is to drop your head straight down once your lined up behind the shot then please say exactly that instead of giving incorrect information to people who might not know it's incorrect.

[throtts]

Way too much over thinking on here..The game hard enough guys and all of us want to try and promote the game to get more playing it. Anyone young wannabe reading this will think, maybe I should stick to the play station..

Any player can read all they like but the only way forward to get to consistent 50 plus breaks is to play everyday for at least 3 hours, that's fact..

[j6uk]

I agree that someone would need to be playing properly, roughly 10hrs a week, to realistically start to max there potential but, I don't see any over thinking here, why would this tread put you off snooker?
Yes this game can be hard work at times but, every days a new beginning

Way too much over thinking on here..The game hard enough guys and all of us want to try and promote the game to get more playing it. Anyone young wannabe reading this will think, maybe I should stick to the play station..

Any player can read all they like but the only way forward to get to consistent 50 plus breaks is to play everyday for at least 3 hours, that's fact..

[Terry Davidson]

Gerry:

When I say 'nose' that is a simple reference to keeping the 'eyes' on the object ball and line of aim. If the nose remains on the line of aim then the eyes will be too. If a player is one who thinks his dominant eye should be on the line of aim as he stands behind the shot and he is that aware of his body and what it's doing that is still fine too.

I still believe you're over-thinking this. Keeping the nose on the line and the eyes on the object ball is the same thing as saying 'keep your dominant eye on the object ball and/or line of aim' but then people who over-think this concept will come back and ask me how they can be certain they are looking and aiming with their dominant eye when standing behind the shot and not sighting along the cue.

The dominant eye ONLY comes into play (if people believe they must line the cue up under the dominant eye) when the player is SIGHTING along the cue when down in the address position, and not when the player is AIMING while standing up behind the shot. In setting up to the address position it's more important to have the straight leg foot in the correct position.

It's also important to keep the eyes on the object ball while dropping down from the aiming position to the sighting position.

Terry

[Gerry Armstrong]

I'm not over thinking anything Terry as I'm not working on my technique.

I'm simply pointing out that putting in block capitals that you MUST have your nose on the line of aim is not helpful to people who are working on their technique and may not know any better that the statement is at best inaccurate.

If your nose is on the line of aim when you start and is not by the time you are over the cue and sighting, it is impossible to have dropped your head straight down on to the shot. You have to move your head left or right to get your eyes where they normally are once over the cue. You can't have both nose on the line of aim and head straight down if you don't sight with your cue dead centre between your eyes.

Best to ignore where your nose is altogether and just focus on dropping your head straight down on to the shot once you've aimed as that's the important part. Where you nose is or is pointing is irrelevant.

[DeanH]

Terry, IIRC it has only been recently that (that I have noticed at least) you have used the term "nose on the line" where you used to say drop the head on the line, which I (and many others I think) totally understood.
I have even passed on that advise to a friend - drop head on the line that is - to great success on his part - a mini-eureka moment for him.
Cheers Terry for all your help.

[Terry Davidson]

To clarify. When you are standing behind the shot and determining your line of aim the brain will always select the image it sees from the preferred or dominant eye with the other eye acting only to provide the binocular vision required for depth perception.

If I would have said 'place your dominant eye (along with the straight leg foot) on the line of aim then drop straight down while keeping that eye on the line of aim' would that lead to better understanding? Perhaps not as there are many players who prefer centre chin cueing or have the cue not directly beneath the dominant eye, and then I would get a similar comment regarding how the head is aligned during the aiming process.

I use the nose which is normally centered between both eyes as the most common point of reference for the eyes however every player's brain will select the image it sees through the preferred eye and will centre themselves based on that image.

I myself turn my head (and nose) slightly right more in order to ease the strain on the lower neck although my left eye is my preferred eye. However when I'm aiming (I haven't checked using video yet) I believe I'm looking straight at the area of the object ball I want to cover and then drop my head straight down maintaining that aiming until I am sighting along the cue. I don't know if my head is turned to the right since when driving a car for instance I don't turn my head to get a better aim at the steering angle.

In the end it doesn't really matter here as we are talking about very fine adjustments which will occur naturally as the player assumes the address position and falls into his sighting alignment. I think the nose is a good reference however if others prefer I've always said to 'drop the head straight down'. If it happens to be 89.5degrees rather than exactly 90degrees I don't think there is any problem.

Terry

[humperdingle]

Don't even attempt to explain the 'broken nose scenario'

[throtts]

I agree that someone would need to be playing properly, roughly 10hrs a week, to realistically start to max there potential but, I don't see any over thinking here, why would this tread put you off snooker?
Yes this game can be hard work at times but, every days a new beginning

I have to laugh. Come on some posters on here on going well over the top regarding Terry stating the nose statement. IMO, its becoming silly and a few on here need to use their common sense. You need to drop straight down on the shot, not stand behind the shot to determine the line then only to walk off to get a drink and then to come and reslide down straight in to the same shot without relining again.

"Max their potential", thats an accurate way of putting it. Every player wants to get centuries all time but I think some players have to respect the fact that a lot of them will not. Snooker is like anyother, some are better than others at a particular sport and develop to a higher standard and get to that standard at a different speed rate. 10 hours enough to hit the ceiling of ones max potential, every pro will disagree with that..

[humperdingle]

roughly 10hrs a week, to realistically start to max there potential

10 hours enough to hit the ceiling of ones max potential, every pro will disagree with that..

Bit of a difference there.

[throtts]

10 hours enough to start to max their potential, every pro will disagree with that...

Haha, is that any better...

[j6uk]

I see you don't need any help in play this game

10 hours enough to start to max their potential, every pro will disagree with that...

Haha, is that any better...

[j6uk]

Just a wee bit!

Bit of a difference there.

[throtts]

I see you don't need any help in play this game

Haha, do I need help / coaching ?, maybe. Do I want it at the moment, no. I will just do what I have been doing and that's reading and practising.

Your quote is maybe reference to me posting about posters thinking / going over the top and I still stand by that. Every player plays there best when there in their natural play state of mind. How often do you hear a snooker player say, " I played awesome snooker today and was in the zone, however I can't remember what I was doing right, can't remember what my grip configuration " etc etc. I just think so many players become too robotic which impeded ones natural flair. Play and try and enjoy, jmo..