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Originally Posted by j6uk View PostLes, you gong from left to right with the cue, bridge arm is unusually bent (not sure if thats medical) and I don't think you hitting the cue ball with the elbow, your pecking the white.
Stop running the spots and upload a video of you doing just 15reds on the line." Practice to improve not just to waste time "
" 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
http://www.ontariosnooker.club
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Pecking like a bird instead of accelerating through the white. hitting from the elbow is the sensation you get when you time the cue ball properly, this is working in unison with the closing of the back of the hand on the 'so call' grip.
This will take time to develop but you have that, all decent players will remember the first time they started doing this and hitting the ball right, timing the shot, ask your coach his
Originally Posted by lesedwards View PostYes the bridge arm is medical. That is as straight as it goes. I will line up the reds tomorrow and take a video. Not sure I follow hitting with the elbow and the pecking part.Last edited by j6uk; 11 November 2013, 12:22 PM.
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pecking is the fact you are just hitting the front of the white Les - it is best if you push completely through the white not stop after impact which is a peck - your cue tip would be in fact spearing the white straight through and out the other end in principle. Yours is not going through the white at the minute and that is why it is a peck = J6uk is bang on.
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Originally Posted by Byrom View Postpecking is the fact you are just hitting the front of the white Les - it is best if you push completely through the white not stop after impact which is a peck - your cue tip would be in fact spearing the white straight through and out the other end in principle. Yours is not going through the white at the minute and that is why it is a peck = J6uk is bang on." Practice to improve not just to waste time "
" 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
http://www.ontariosnooker.club
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You say you've been having coaching since march, I find it amazing that your sill pecking, unless of course your coach is a pecker. I appreciate that we can pick up habits from others we play regular.
Anyway, I also have the impression that you have both knees bent and your somehow lying on the cue or at least you don't have a solid stance/ foundation. Again this could be medical.
It would be a good idea to get yourself on that 15red line so we can see you briskly moving around the scoring end.
Originally Posted by lesedwards View PostPecking now I understand....LOL the same thing as I call Jabbing at the cue ball. I know this is a big problem I have which also causes me to decelerate at the cue ball. Something to work on tonight.Last edited by j6uk; 11 November 2013, 01:13 PM.
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Originally Posted by j6uk View PostYou say you've been having coaching since march, I find it amazing that your sill pecking, unless of course your coach is a pecker. Anyway, I also have the impression that you have both knees bent and your somehow lying on the cue or at least you don't have a solid stance/ foundation. Again this could be medical.
It would be a good idea to get yourself on that 15red line so we can see you briskly moving around the business end." Practice to improve not just to waste time "
" 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
http://www.ontariosnooker.club
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Les:
You are definitely clutching the cue (or 'pecking' as others are saying). This is strange as when I was last at your place we got you potting a long blue and screwing back to the baulkline and that is impossible to do if a player clutches the cue. (And j6uk...Les' coach is not a pecker although I have been known to clutch the cue from time to time it's not my normal technique).
This is cause by one or all of 3 difference things. The first is tightening the grip too early in the delivery which I believe you are doing but of course we can't see you in the frame at all.
The second is your very short backswing length which may be due to the low power required for the shot to travel just 2 lengths.
Yes, you do seem to be aligned slightly to the right and it does look to me as if you are cueing left-to-right and this is caused by the third thing which is a crooked backswing even though it's terribly short.
The videos you posted are almost useless for anyone trying to analyse your technique. Set up the camera so it covers from the top of your elbow down to about 6" in front of the cueball and then try and get 4-5 lengths of the table. Give us about 10 of those shots and then set the camera up on the left side of your body so it captures from elbow down to just below the cue (but you might need some extra lighting shining on the grip hand) and do about 10 long blues again.
Then do as j6uk says and line up about 10 reds down the centre of the table at the top end between blue and black spot and just pot all 10 reds but have the camera over one of the top pockets so we can see head-on and side view shots but for goodness sakes have the camera pick up from the top of the elbow down to the bed of the table.
TerryLast edited by Terry Davidson; 11 November 2013, 01:50 PM.Terry Davidson
IBSF Master Coach & Examiner
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Your a worry les
Get through the white tonight and stick the vid up, we'll do our best 'in words' to point you in the right direction..
Originally Posted by lesedwards View PostIf I put lots of bottom on it and peck at it I will actually jump the cue ball as I did twice in the last qualifier.
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Les no one has mentioned this but How far away is your bridge?, I noticed your fingers only just seem to touch the D line(on first new vid, only watched a few shots) which must make the V another six inches back so the overall distance to the cue ball must be (well to be honest I don't know lol ,as I don't know how big the D is )but I think it may be too far, this could cause the wobble, you could be set up much more compact, I realise this may be harder for you because of your arm, but Terry must have had you set up nicely to be potting long blues and screwing back into baulk, because as he said you can't do that with bad technique or set up.
How far through is your cue coming after the stroke?, as others have said you are hitting the white not cueing through it, relax everything fella and let it flow, while staying still.
Watched the rest, definitely ,definitely , not finding the centre of the white, if it were me I would do some feathers before the stroke and check where I'm hitting on the white, just my opinion.Last edited by itsnoteasy; 11 November 2013, 06:27 PM.This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8
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Relax. Seems like you're talking yourself out of it.Originally Posted by Belloz22 View PostHey all again,
As most of you know i post on this forum alot seeking advice etc, and normally to vent my fustration etc...... and once again this is one of those times.
Anyway, few weeks ago i posted on here telling of my fustration with the game and how i felt i was playing the worst i have ever played in my life, and was on the verge of punching children because of it- anyway, after some advice etc, i went back to the practice table, work on things such as keeping shoulder and head still, really loosening the grip hand, and making sure my left foot was on the line of aim as is my nose.
This worked wonders, i was making consistent 30 and 40 breaks, regularly making 20s in the balls and rarely losing frames. I thought i had to all sussed.
As per usual, over the last few days, my game has deterioated to a standard worse than i've played before, back to missing easy pots 10-15 times a frame, going in off all time etc. During the frames, im still making sure my grip is loose, shoulder still etc, all the things i worked on before, yet now it feels like something is not working. Im still consistently missing shots etc, even though im making sure my nose is on line of aim and still when im getting down. It is if my body/cue wont get down on the line i know is the shot or something - even thought im putting my foot and nose on the line i believe.
It does feel nothing works for more than 5 minutes with me, and then im back playing like ive never played the game before. I feel like im cueing straight, playing shots up and down the table confirm this, and when playing longs straight blues, more often than not im following the shot in with the white.
It is getting to that stage im refusing to play people because im so embarassed about my standard of play
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Belloz , i think you need to show more determination and fight to prove to yourself and others that you can play the game than the negative vibes that are flying around your head . Relax calm down , think and go back to basics if you have to , sounds like you have got yourself in a right one and eight .
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Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View PostLes:
You are definitely clutching the cue (or 'pecking' as others are saying). This is strange as when I was last at your place we got you potting a long blue and screwing back to the baulkline and that is impossible to do if a player clutches the cue. (And j6uk...Les' coach is not a pecker although I have been known to clutch the cue from time to time it's not my normal technique).
This is cause by one or all of 3 difference things. The first is tightening the grip too early in the delivery which I believe you are doing but of course we can't see you in the frame at all.
The second is your very short backswing length which may be due to the low power required for the shot to travel just 2 lengths.
Yes, you do seem to be aligned slightly to the right and it does look to me as if you are cueing left-to-right and this is caused by the third thing which is a crooked backswing even though it's terribly short.
The videos you posted are almost useless for anyone trying to analyse your technique. Set up the camera so it covers from the top of your elbow down to about 6" in front of the cueball and then try and get 4-5 lengths of the table. Give us about 10 of those shots and then set the camera up on the left side of your body so it captures from elbow down to just below the cue (but you might need some extra lighting shining on the grip hand) and do about 10 long blues again.
Then do as j6uk says and line up about 10 reds down the centre of the table at the top end between blue and black spot and just pot all 10 reds but have the camera over one of the top pockets so we can see head-on and side view shots but for goodness sakes have the camera pick up from the top of the elbow down to the bed of the table.
Terry
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=097foLufMXM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmLxDH3OSs" Practice to improve not just to waste time "
" 43 Match - 52 Practice - 13 Reds in Line Up "
http://www.ontariosnooker.club
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Still off but better les, and you could accelerate through the ball with more purpose. You also have a mannerism that you could do without and that maybe trowing offline, its the 'lunging of the cue forwards from the hip and back as you get down on the shot', instead, I could see you having your 'so called' grip gelled to your hip side as you drop (straight down) onto the shot/line. This may encourage some hip movement but see how you go..
Try it out on the baulk line, I think it may give you more feedback. Vid & stickup
Originally Posted by lesedwards View PostWell here you go I have two videos below from two different angles then tomorrow I will upload me shooting the reds. I cannot wait to hear everyone's comments. I really tried to follow through instead of pecking.
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