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[j6uk]

My phone is 7years old and not really up for the job of producing a clear video. I'll ask a student to do a video on one of there poncey tablet phones an upload it within the week Though I do have one of me on youtube somewhere..

I see you using your 22 years Lieutenant-Commander skills to good affect the way you approach your kind of coaching on tsf

j6uk:

It was Lieutenant-Commander, Combat Systems Engineer. Retired in early 1985 but had accumulated about 6 months leave so actually left late 1984 and moved to Glasgow to join my (now) wife while she completed her degree in physiotherapy.

I tried searching for your video but as you have over 1,000 posts I couldn't find it. Could you please post a link to your video?

Thanks,
Terry

[Terry Davidson]

Jeez!

I took a video of myself and it was ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE! I don't know when or where I developed these bad habits but I guess it comes from continuously tinkering with my grip as no grip lately has felt perfect to me. Although I was striking the centre of the cueball I was coming from left to right at the start of the delivery and then right-to-left right around the time of strike as I was compensating for the initial left-to-right at the start of the delivery.

I returned to the grip which I coach which is the forefinger and thumb with the back 3 fingers almost not touching the butt and keeping it that way until the end of the delivery. Finally I started potting some long blues.

There was also some head movement and my whole upper body was sliding to the right during the delivery (and I didn't even realize I was doing this until I saw the video). That was this morning at 10am. Then I dug out the springy 360 cue and went to work on my grip first and then trying to stop the movement but even when I potted 5 out of 5 long blues my grip hand was still going way to the right on the delivery even though I was hitting centre ball with the 360. I stopped the body from sliding to the right and still can't figure out why I was doing that.

So it's now 2pm and I'm still working on it. When I discover where the root cause of this problem is and correct it I will post a video. Nothing worse than seeing the tip of my cue go 2" to the left of the cueball at the end of the delivery. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm delivering the cue and bringing the right hand well out from the chest (when I cue along the baulkline this doesn't happen by the way, go figure). That means I will have to continue with the video camera and long blue stop shots and then when it looks good graduate to long blue deep screw shots back to the yellow pocket, but dammit I'm getting a chalk line on my table!

It's VERY HARD to break ingrained habits like this, as I'm finding out today!

Terry

[j6uk]

Don't worry terry m8 what the hell, we're not gonna take the ****, just post what you done.

Maybe you just need to throw that bendy bit of 360 in the fire this fall because its messing with your head. Better to keep warm in your neck of the woods when the sun goes down, waist not want not ay?!

Jeez!

I took a video of myself and it was ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE! I don't know when or where I developed these bad habits but I guess it comes from continuously tinkering with my grip as no grip lately has felt perfect to me. Although I was striking the centre of the cueball I was coming from left to right at the start of the delivery and then right-to-left right around the time of strike as I was compensating for the initial left-to-right at the start of the delivery.

I returned to the grip which I coach which is the forefinger and thumb with the back 3 fingers almost not touching the butt and keeping it that way until the end of the delivery. Finally I started potting some long blues.

There was also some head movement and my whole upper body was sliding to the right during the delivery (and I didn't even realize I was doing this until I saw the video). That was this morning at 10am. Then I dug out the springy 360 cue and went to work on my grip first and then trying to stop the movement but even when I potted 5 out of 5 long blues my grip hand was still going way to the right on the delivery even though I was hitting centre ball with the 360. I stopped the body from sliding to the right and still can't figure out why I was doing that.

So it's now 2pm and I'm still working on it. When I discover where the root cause of this problem is and correct it I will post a video. Nothing worse than seeing the tip of my cue go 2" to the left of the cueball at the end of the delivery. I'm still trying to figure out why I'm delivering the cue and bringing the right hand well out from the chest (when I cue along the baulkline this doesn't happen by the way, go figure). That means I will have to continue with the video camera and long blue stop shots and then when it looks good graduate to long blue deep screw shots back to the yellow pocket, but dammit I'm getting a chalk line on my table!

It's VERY HARD to break ingrained habits like this, as I'm finding out today!

Terry

[Terry Davidson]

The 360 is a really good teaching aid as it tells you instantly if you're delivering the cue straight. I'm not quite doing that, especially after the strike.

I just tried 3 long blues, screwing back into the yellow pocket and made 1 with the other 2 coming within a foot or so of the pocket and I potted 2 of the blues and rattled the other...BUT my tip was still ending up a good 2" to the left of the cueball position.

I would be too embarrassed to post a video of this crappy delivery as I'm supposed to know how to deliver the cue straight, even with lots of power but obviously I'm having a problem. When I get this sorted (if I ever do) I will post a video. I wouldn't want anyone to copy what I'm doing right now as I would ruin a lot of players!

I want to be able to post a video showing 5 long blue pots in a row as a stop shot and then again showing the grip arm, hand and shoulder doing the same 5 long blues and if I'm feeling good a couple of long blues with screw back into the yellow pocket. If I can do that I would be proud to post that video.

Terry

[j6uk]

Forget the long blue, no pressure, what about you doing what you do best, in and around the reds. Do a lineup! If your not to confident about that then what about doing a little fifteen reds between black and blue/brown.

I would be too embarrassed to post a video of this crappy delivery as I'm supposed to know how to deliver the cue straight, even with lots of power but obviously I'm having a problem. When I get this sorted (if I ever do) I will post a video. I wouldn't want anyone to copy what I'm doing right now as I would ruin a lot of players!

I want to be able to post a video showing 5 long blue pots in a row as a stop shot and then again showing the grip arm, hand and shoulder doing the same 5 long blues and if I'm feeling good a couple of long blues with screw back into the yellow pocket. If I can do that I would be proud to post that video.

Terry

[Terry Davidson]

j6uk:

The line-up takes too much time and is too large a video file. Normally when doing a video analysis you need a repeat shot so the camera can capture everything and you are shooting directly into or away from the camera.

With the line-up it's hit-or-miss to get a good shot of the cue action, much like the TV coverage where you rarely have the player shooting directly into the camera except for the odd black and it's hard to see the grip hand side except for the green or blue.

I'm still working on it but my tip still moves to the left after strike and my elbow is outside the cue and worse yet my right hand moves towards the outside. I think I have my right shoulder down too low and I have to work on getting it up and behind my head so it's not visible from directly in front (that's if I'm flexible enough).

This must have happened over time and might be me getting too old and less flexible but I'm going to work with a mirror and see what I can do without twisting my spine too severely.

HEY!!! Chris Small...what do you think? Should the grip arm shoulder be hidden or almost completely hidden by the head?

Terry

[j6uk]

Maybe you could video yourself from a few different angles cueing along the baulk line half a dozen times.

I think it would be really helpful.

j6uk:

The line-up takes too much time and is too large a video file. Normally when doing a video analysis you need a repeat shot so the camera can capture everything and you are shooting directly into or away from the camera.

HEY!!! Chris Small...what do you think? Should the grip arm shoulder be hidden or almost completely hidden by the head?

Terry

[mythman69]

Maybe you could video yourself from a few different angles cueing along the baulk line half a dozen times.

I think it would be really helpful.

Sounds good to me!!

It would be very useful Terry!

[itsnoteasy]

If I had a clue how to do videos(getting a phone that's not steam powered would be a start)I would stick up film of me playing poorly, because that's what you learn from, what would be the point of me sticking up a video of ten long blues in a row, as I have potted them, ten misses that's where coaches can help.

[rimmer10]

Good point itsnoteasy
come one Terry, do it!

[Terry Davidson]

itsnoteasy:

I agree with you, however as a coach I feel I should put up a decent example which shows me delivering the cue at least MOSTLY straight. I have been working on this again this morning, just shooting the spots for 4-1/2 to 5 lengths so a bit of power and I'm getting it under control.

The problem is I have to find the root cause of my grip hand flying away from my body instead of going straight into the chest and my initial analysis is my grip arm shoulder was sagging (my wife who is a physio tells me I have hyper extending shoulders as I can touch my elbows behind my back easily) and I've been working on getting that shoulder up more behind the head which also brings my elbow right over the cue. My grip hand is still moving to the right a bit however using Kinovea I can see I'm striking the cueball dead centre and the movement of the grip hand comes after the strike, so it's not effecting the pot at all.

Just tried 5 long blues and potted 4 of them using deep screw with a lot of power and the 5th one I rattled tightly. So I'm making some progress I guess. My target is to eliminate that grip hand lateral movement and on low power shots where I don't drop my elbow there is no movement but it's when I drop the elbow I can't seem to do it straight. As a coach I feel I should be able to get this corrected for myself as I want to be able to correct it for my students too.

Terry

[Terry Davidson]

Anyone:

I have a video file which is 88Mb but it says file too large. Outside of posting on youtube or similar how do I insert a video file into a new post?

Thanks,
Terry

[coomsey76]

I find photobucket is quite for embedding videos......

[itsnoteasy]

Terry wasn't having a go, I know we are at two different places as to where our games are, let's face it ,it wouldn't take me long to get ten misses to post up, the video certainly wouldn't be to big to upload. I was just stating what I would do, as I have seen others post up line ups that have been done to a good standard and I have always thought, what's the point in that?
I had a bit of a technique wobble today, I am trying to use a half backswing on lower powered shots, (I naturally have a longish swing for all shots) but it completely threw my cue action and I had to go right back to basics to get it back.
I have decided my power is only three to three and a half times up and down the table with any consistency , so I have adapted my game to play within that, to be honest I very rarely use that much anyway.

[Terry Davidson]

OK...J6uk, rimmer, itsnoteasy, mythman, and my millions of other fans, see my string just posted 'Terry's Technique Video' and give me your comments and recommendations on that string.

No matter what I tried over the past 4 days I just couldn't get my elbow right over the cue and I think this is just me at my age not being flexible enough to get that right shoulder hidden by the head. I also noted my tip goes to the left a bit after strike so I would like to get that corrected.

Lunch time!

Terry