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  • #16
    I practice a few ways on straight cueing regularly, one of these is the matchbox. Its great in many ways that I won't go into here but, I know by experience that, its not going to help my timing when I hit the table.

    Originally Posted by svendh View Post
    However I stopped using it because I was constantly seeking for perfection which I could not archive. I am now focusing on learning more about 'my' cue action and developing a good timing. Beware of looking to much at the pros, they have practised hard for decades to get there.

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    • #17
      Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
      I practice a few ways on straight cueing regularly, one of these is the matchbox. Its great in many ways that I won't go into here but, I know by experience that, its not going to help my timing when I hit the table.
      The problem with this and cueing along the baulk line is it does,nt replicate hitting a ball where more emphasis is put on the shot and body movement , wrist turn etc is more likely to happen .

      When i had a problem turing my wrist it only happened when i hit the object ball , i could hit just the white with no turn at all .

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      • #18
        Timing has much to do with accelerating the cue smooth during delivery. Have a look at this video:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWO...e_gdata_player

        One thing I found out is that you should record videos at the club but make the analysis later at home. This stopped me from sitting at the computer in the club instead of practising at the table. j6uk, I see you charging your camcorder BTW :-)

        One good routine for timing comes from nic. Go down in address position and touch the white with the tip. Than push the cue through and pot the white from the baulk line in the black pockets. Any rush during delivery will push the white of line. Practise until 9/10

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        • #19
          No the baulk line is great, that's why its recommended by the pro's.
          If you practice this enough you will begin to see and feel every movement that you mentioned, in getting that cue running through as straight as you possibly can. I kid you not, this is what all the best players do. there are no shortcuts, no software or magic cure unfortunately
          There could be other reasons for you moving, like the pressure of playing in a match in the heat of battle or reaching a 50 break.

          Can you upload a video of what you mean?


          Originally Posted by hotpot View Post
          The problem with this and cueing along the baulk line is it does,nt replicate hitting a ball where more emphasis is put on the shot and body movement , wrist turn etc is more likely to happen .

          When i had a problem turing my wrist it only happened when i hit the object ball , i could hit just the white with no turn at all .
          Last edited by j6uk; 18 August 2013, 10:06 AM.

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          • #20
            Not with you sorry


            Originally Posted by svendh View Post
            j6uk, I see you charging your camcorder BTW :-)

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            • #21
              Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
              No the baulk line is great, that's why its recommended by the pro's.
              If you practice this enough you will begin to see and feel every movement that you mentioned, in getting that cue running through as straight as you possibly can. I kid you not, this is what all the best players do. there are no shortcuts, no software or magic cure unfortunately
              There could be moving for other reasons for you moving, like the pressure of playing in a match in the heat of battle or reaching a 50 break.

              Can you upload a video of what you mean?
              I agree in principle but when you hit the ball its totally different , very unlikely youre going to be as relaxed or smooth throughout the shot , nothing to do with pressure or excitement of reaching 50 or 100 , there is more emphasis on the shot especially when you have a bit to do with the white . Having coaching this week so pheraps the coach can video something .

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              • #22
                I like it when he says 'to feel what the heck is happening with the cue'
                You feel this btw on the baulk line as you accelerate along it. No bendy cue no software.


                Originally Posted by svendh View Post
                Timing has much to do with accelerating the cue smooth during delivery. Have a look at this video:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWO...e_gdata_player

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                • #23
                  Its getting difficult now without seeing you play but- imo if the cueing properly from the elbow, you should get to the stage were you can marry these sensations together, (straight cueing with movement) with or without contacting the white.
                  Talk it over with Lee, he's a nice player with loads of experience. Video would be good yes..


                  Originally Posted by hotpot View Post
                  I agree in principle but when you hit the ball its totally different , very unlikely youre going to be as relaxed or smooth throughout the shot , nothing to do with pressure or excitement of reaching 50 or 100 , there is more emphasis on the shot especially when you have a bit to do with the white . Having coaching this week so pheraps the coach can video something .

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                  • #24
                    A few comments here on this subject...cueing along the baulkline is a good start, however there are an awful lot of players who when playing with a cueball and object ball will actually deliver the cue differently. I believe it has something to do with them actually seeing the cueball in their peripheral vision and they unconsciously think 'I've hit the cueball, job done' and they will decelerate the cue with all the mess that causes.

                    Cueing along the baulkline has no definite target and you aren't striking anything so a lot of less skilled players will be able to do that with no problems, but take those same players and have them play a long blue and that will be when you see the problems.

                    On Nic's exercise with the cueball, there is one very important thing that was left out. Place the cueball anywhere on the baulkline and line up at address for a top pocket. Slowly bring the tip to the cueball until it's TOUCHING the cueball and then push through. There shouldn't be ANY SOUND at all since if there is then you didn't have the tip frozen to the cueball. This exercise will show you if you are delivering the cue straight and also it will tell you what you are doing with the cue during the delivery but only from the address position on. It also doesn't help with keeping or getting the backswing straight, which is just as important.

                    Terry
                    Terry Davidson
                    IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                    • #25
                      Long straight blues trying to follow on into the same pocket and screwing back the same give a much clearer picture of flaws in your technique .

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                      • #26
                        On a personal note cueing across the baulk line does,nt tell me nothing .

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                        • #27
                          I tried cueing across the baulkline, but I can see 2 lines when I look down. Weird. Does anyone else notice this?

                          Not sure it works for me.

                          My favourite players: Walter Lindrum (AUS), Neil Robertson (AUS), Eddie Charlton (AUS), Robby Foldvari (AUS), Vinnie Calabrese (AUS), Jimmy White, Stephen Hendry, Alex Higgins, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Dominic Dale and Barry Hawkins.
                          I dream of a 147 (but would be happy with a 100)

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                          • #28
                            You really do need to talk to old Pagey



                            Originally Posted by hotpot View Post
                            On a personal note cueing across the baulk line does,nt tell me nothing .

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                            • #29
                              Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                              You really do need to talk to old Pagey
                              So you know him .

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                              • #30
                                Sorry terry but I would expect this from a payer who struggles to make a 30 break. If you, as a maximum man, don't fall into line with what I'm saying then there really is something very, very wrong, you know that right?

                                For some reason this nic fellow comes up quit a lot. I assure you he has and maybe still is doing all the thing that I advocate..





                                Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                                A few comments here on this subject...cueing along the baulkline is a good start, however there are an awful lot of players who when playing with a cueball and object ball will actually deliver the cue differently. I believe it has something to do with them actually seeing the cueball in their peripheral vision and they unconsciously think 'I've hit the cueball, job done' and they will decelerate the cue with all the mess that causes.

                                Cueing along the baulkline has no definite target and you aren't striking anything so a lot of less skilled players will be able to do that with no problems, but take those same players and have them play a long blue and that will be when you see the problems.

                                On Nic's exercise with the cueball, there is one very important thing that was left out. Place the cueball anywhere on the baulkline and line up at address for a top pocket. Slowly bring the tip to the cueball until it's TOUCHING the cueball and then push through. There shouldn't be ANY SOUND at all since if there is then you didn't have the tip frozen to the cueball. This exercise will show you if you are delivering the cue straight and also it will tell you what you are doing with the cue during the delivery but only from the address position on. It also doesn't help with keeping or getting the backswing straight, which is just as important.

                                Terry
                                Last edited by j6uk; 18 August 2013, 01:25 PM.

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