Terry on YouTube

[tedisbill]

Looks like Nic Barrow has uploaded a load more coaching analysis videos staring Terry.

I'll have a proper look later.

[Terry Davidson]

Those videos are 5 or 6 years old and I'm not happy that Nic uploaded them as they don't reflect the player I am now. They were taken just after I came back from a 10yr layoff and my technique was horrible!

He also loaded them up on facebook.

Terry

[tedisbill]

Oh, sorry Terry.

We all know you know your stuff anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[j6uk]

I know he looks like a beginner in these videos but, to be fare to terry, I believe these were his first ever coaching lessons.

[Byrom]

I do not think it is as important that you need be a top player yourself to coach others how to play or advise them on what would be the best way to improve as people think. Venus Williams dad coaches them tennis and he cant play himself, Dell Hill, and other coaches out there - have knowledge, experience and the verve but if not necessarily the acumen to impart it for themselves.

Ronnie O Sullivan Mark Williams and Hendry are players who for example have not really got the skills to pass on how they themselves got that good and teach others.

I do think it is more important to have the knowledge and the skills to impart that knowledge and motivate someone far more - of course if you can demonstrate this from experience too them fantastic - but it does not always transpire that good players always make good teachers either - there is more to it than just that.

As for the video - I would have thought just as the fella to take it down Terry. I'm sure he would respect your wishes if he is professional.

[j6uk]

I agree that coaches come with differing skills like, Dell brings more head fitness to the table, maybe because he's been around the inner workings of the game for so long. Nic can do the head stuff but is better known for the technical work because he's been a good player himself.
I do believe with any sport, if your gonna go into in depth workings of technique you should know how to do it to some level. I mean, a 30 break maker is not going to be much help to someone who's ambition is to make a frame winning break, simply because he won't know what he's talking about.

[Byrom]

If you have seen it, can adapt it. understand the technicalities of it and can impart it all well and good - I don't think it matters about being able to play to any really outstanding level really. It is more important to be able to motivate and understand how to pass that information on in a way the other person can benefit from it as well as being astute enough to understand what methods and motivational techniques work best and why for each person, whilst also being reflective and self critical to keep improving yourself.

Better if you can do both obviously but as I have said it does not always transpire that a good player can automatically coach others just because you can demonstrate something. Pele and Maradonna where world class footballers - they are not much good at coaching or managing others to do it -

I think it takes certain qualities to be able to coach and manage and teach others and I respect people that do it - Think about it like this was Alex Ferguson A Wenger and the Chelsea boss all world class footballers before becoming world class coaches?

However some talented people can do both too.



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[DG GIBERT]

Those videos are 5 or 6 years old and I'm not happy that Nic uploaded them as they don't reflect the player I am now. They were taken just after I came back from a 10yr layoff and my technique was horrible!

He also loaded them up on facebook.

Terry

I'm sorry Terry but we only got your word on that

(g)

[SouthPaw]

If you have seen it, can adapt it. understand the technicalities of it and can impart it all well and good - I don't think it matters about being able to play to any really outstanding level really. It is more important to be able to motivate and understand how to pass that information on in a way the other person can benefit from it as well as being astute enough to understand what methods and motivational techniques work best and why for each person, whilst also being reflective and self critical to keep improving yourself.

Better if you can do both obviously but as I have said it does not always transpire that a good player can automatically coach others just because you can demonstrate something. Pele and Maradonna where world class footballers - they are not much good at coaching or managing others to do it -

I think it takes certain qualities to be able to coach and manage and teach others and I respect people that do it - Think about it like this was Alex Ferguson A Wenger and the Chelsea boss all world class footballers before becoming world class coaches?

However some talented people can do both too.



I

100% my thoughts exactly...

[humperdingle]

Those videos are 5 or 6 years old and I'm not happy that Nic uploaded them as they don't reflect the player I am now. They were taken just after I came back from a 10yr layoff and my technique was horrible!

He also loaded them up on facebook.

Terry

Terry, do you have any up-to-date footage so we can compare? I'm interested to see what you might have changed.

[j6uk]

You may have missed my point, tough I do agree with some of what you said above. I don't believe any of the names you mentioned would be talking to all there players about in depth football techniques, they have others to help in that department.

Think about it like this was Alex Ferguson A Wenger and the Chelsea boss all world class footballers before becoming world class coaches?

[Terry Davidson]

DG GILBERT:

Come to Latvia on Nov 27th and watch me play and decide for yourself.

I know I'm still not playing as well as I did in the 80's in Britain but I also know I'm playing better than I did in 2006 or 2007 when those videos were taken.

Terry

[Terry Davidson]

humper:

No I don't have any new video except for the short one I posted on here awhile ago. The problem is even if I took a video of myself there's nowhere to post a long video like that and also uploading it with my wireless internet connection would take forever anyway

Terry

[vmax4steve]

I think it takes certain qualities to be able to coach and manage and teach others and I respect people that do it - Think about it like this was Alex Ferguson A Wenger and the Chelsea boss all world class footballers before becoming world class coaches?

A professional football coach or team manager is not actually teaching his players how to kick a ball. He is selecting players and imparting knowledge of tactics in order to win matches and titles.
You learn your football skills as a boy and then grow to be bigger, stronger and faster. No one taught Pele, Best, Crujff or Maradonna how to play football. Their talent as boys was spotted by scouts who reported to professional clubs who then took them on.
The coaches of these clubs then might have taught them how to integrate their talent into the team, but their skills were their own.

This is totally different from a snooker coach actually teaching on a one to one basis how to hold a cue, sight the shot, stand in the right place etc etc and to be able to actually demonstrate it when asked to prove that it works.

[SouthPaw]

Terry on YouTube

Your right Steve but I think Byrom when using professional football as a comparison, was then fore speaking of snooker in the same way...

For example Neil Robertson isn't going to need to learn how to hold a cue, what he may need is to learn more about the tactical side of the game. Obviously the manager title in football can be misled as not all get stuck into the coaching side of things...