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  • #76
    Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
    I wish people would stop putting this bollocks on the coaching threads about not needing to look at the object ball while striking because you can pot with your eyes closed.
    You can pot with your bloody eyes closed because the eyes are then not focussing on anything at all.

    When the eyes are open they guide the hand, fact not fiction and saying otherwise isn't going to help anyone.
    What impact does proprioception have on this Vmax?
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    • #77
      Hands up who googled Proprioception

      save time here-

      meaning "one's own", "individual" and perception, is the sense of the relative position of neighbouring parts of the body and strength of effort being employed in movement.

      Just me then - sad
      Just wish i'd have sat next to sturpee in school - would have been much easier ride.
      Last edited by Byrom; 20 February 2014, 03:53 PM.

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      • #78
        Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
        I wish people would stop putting this bollocks on the coaching threads about not needing to look at the object ball while striking because you can pot with your eyes closed.
        You can pot with your bloody eyes closed because the eyes are then not focussing on anything at all.

        When the eyes are open they guide the hand, fact not fiction and saying otherwise isn't going to help anyone.
        Chill out Rasputin
        It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

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        • #79
          Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
          Hands up who googled Proprioception

          save time here-

          meaning "one's own", "individual" and perception, is the sense of the relative position of neighbouring parts of the body and strength of effort being employed in movement.

          Just me then - sad
          Just wish i'd have sat next to sturpee in school - would have been much easier ride.
          If you were sat next to me in school you would have been either in the corridor or the head's office mate! Full on awkward teenager

          If I could have used another word for this I certainly would have done but it is the only one I know
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          • #80
            Top word Stupree ! Never heard it before.
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            • #81
              The closed eye drill in coaching is used to have the player concentrate on his rhythm and timing.

              If someone wants a real test on whether or not the hand follows the eye just set up a slightly off-straight shot and then focus on the pocket at the time of strike and see what happens then. It would take someone with an iron will to be able to keep the cue in a straight delivery to the object ball as the hand will follow the eyes and correct the line of aim of the cue towards the pocket. I've tried this exercise and I cannot pot the ball, even on simple shots (that aren't over the pocket).

              Terry
              Terry Davidson
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              • #82
                Hi Terry that is interesting. I will have to try that.
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                • #83
                  Originally Posted by lesedwards View Post
                  Hi Terry that is interesting. I will have to try that.
                  I'm willing to bet that you already do it in matches Les.

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                  • #84
                    Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                    The closed eye drill in coaching is used to have the player concentrate on his rhythm and timing.

                    If someone wants a real test on whether or not the hand follows the eye just set up a slightly off-straight shot and then focus on the pocket at the time of strike and see what happens then. It would take someone with an iron will to be able to keep the cue in a straight delivery to the object ball as the hand will follow the eyes and correct the line of aim of the cue towards the pocket. I've tried this exercise and I cannot pot the ball, even on simple shots (that aren't over the pocket).

                    Terry

                    Tried this today and potted the first three i attempted
                    It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

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                    • #85
                      Aiming Without Looking

                      'Whether you think you can or you think you can't , you're probably right' - Henry Ford

                      Our brain is a very flexible malleable tool that can cope remarkably well with varying stimulus. The intricacies of ball and a pocket in the game of snooker has no real meaning to our processing. Our brain can cope with 'put this object there' in a variety of ways if allowed to function in a variety of ways.
                      What does the brain do to get you through the complexities of day to day life?

                      I have even managed to type this without looking at the keyboard, amazing considering the constraints that are apparently on my mind and body.
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                      • #86
                        Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
                        I'm willing to bet that you already do it in matches Les.
                        Is that why in matches I miss because I am not staying down and keeping my eye on BOB?
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                        • #87
                          Originally Posted by lesedwards View Post
                          Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
                          I'm willing to bet that you already do it in matches Les.
                          Is that why in matches I miss because I am not staying down and keeping my eye on BOB?
                          Probably and possibly not Les.

                          How would your game improve if you possessed the answers yourself, not needing the solutions from someone on the forum?
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                          • #88
                            Originally Posted by Stupree View Post
                            Probably and possibly not Les.

                            How would your game improve if you possessed the answers yourself, not needing the solutions from someone on the forum?
                            I have been working very hard on my game and finally starting to see improvements.
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                            • #89
                              Originally Posted by lesedwards View Post

                              I have been working very hard on my game and finally starting to see improvements.
                              Excellent Les, keep at it and allow the tecnique to embed before throwing anything else in to your action now, if at all. I love that you have your own table and you are the envy of many of us in that regard, so you have a great opportunity to make progress in your game.

                              Have you ever practiced when you shouldn't have?
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                              • #90
                                Originally Posted by Stupree View Post
                                Excellent Les, keep at it and allow the tecnique to embed before throwing anything else in to your action now, if at all. I love that you have your own table and you are the envy of many of us in that regard, so you have a great opportunity to make progress in your game.

                                Have you ever practiced when you shouldn't have?
                                That is a great question. I usually practice every night for an hour and sometimes 2 but I get the odd night where I think I am not into it but I go down anyways and then I miss everything and nothing feels right. I have taught myself to pack things up and call it quits for the night. This happens on the odd occasion which is not very often, I just love the game too much. Most people that have a table in their basement usually turn Into a junk collector. We have company over and that is the first thing out of their mouth, how often does that thing get used, takes up a lot if space, when I tell them every night I can tell by their face they don't believe me.
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