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  • #31
    del watching this guy up close was the birth of the so called del-drive..
    notice from the first few shots how the elbow pushes or drives the cue through, making it seam effortless. this is the poetry that is often spoken about by the commentators.

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    • #32
      I drive the cue through an insane amount, by the time I'm done with my follow through on a power shot there must be close to 20 inches of cue over my bridge if not more. Just something that I seem to do naturally, never really gave it much thought.

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      • #33
        Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
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        The bicep and tricep control the arm at the elbow joint. The deltoid controls the arm at the shoulder joint and the muscles in the forearm move the wrist and fingers.

        There are other muscles that control the arm from the shoulder joint but the deltoid is the one that drops the elbow from the shoulder when in the snooker stance so that is the one you should be concerned with.

        The deltoid is contracted when in the snooker stance, when it relaxes the elbow will drop from the shoulder. If you can keep the deltoid contracted and at the same time have a relaxed forearm then the bicep and tricep can be left alone to do their job on a subconscious level and the arm will swing forwards and backwards from the elbow joint smoothly.

        The muscles in the forearm control the wrist and fingers so any tension in the fingers or wrist will contract those muscles leading to a tightening of the arm which will in turn contract the bicep and the deltoid leading to total arm movement from the deltoid muscle when delivering the cue (like throwing a punch) instead of just from the elbow, so relax the forearm by relaxing the fingers by not gripping the cue tightly.

        It looks as if Ronnie, and Joe Davis before, him learned to relax the deltoid on contact of the tip with the cue ball enabling the elbow to drop on most of their strokes, especially when using power. It isn't neccessary though as Judd Trump plays with extreme power without dropping his elbow
        It couldn't have been explained any better. I gave it a try last night and my game was awesome. Neva played that way in my whole life. My elbow fills a lot lighter and free when the deltoid is contracted. My shots are so smooth now. Thanks I really appreciate a lot. You a life saver lol

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        • #34
          Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
          cjKumz:

          Read Steve's post on the muscles above. To answer your last question I'm using ONLY the 2nd finger to 'hold' the cue but it's relaxed (but bent around the butt). The thumb is touching the loose forefinger and the thumb is pointed straight down to the floor which I maintain throughout the backswing and delivery.

          Terry
          I have tried your method of griping the cue and I am loving the locked wrist. Its so easy to generate spins this way.. Just need to get used to it now. Thanks

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          • #35
            Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
            [ATTACH=CONFIG]15794[/ATTACH]

            The bicep and tricep control the arm at the elbow joint. The deltoid controls the arm at the shoulder joint and the muscles in the forearm move the wrist and fingers.

            There are other muscles that control the arm from the shoulder joint but the deltoid is the one that drops the elbow from the shoulder when in the snooker stance so that is the one you should be concerned with.

            The deltoid is contracted when in the snooker stance, when it relaxes the elbow will drop from the shoulder. If you can keep the deltoid contracted and at the same time have a relaxed forearm then the bicep and tricep can be left alone to do their job on a subconscious level and the arm will swing forwards and backwards from the elbow joint smoothly.

            The muscles in the forearm control the wrist and fingers so any tension in the fingers or wrist will contract those muscles leading to a tightening of the arm which will in turn contract the bicep and the deltoid leading to total arm movement from the deltoid muscle when delivering the cue (like throwing a punch) instead of just from the elbow, so relax the forearm by relaxing the fingers by not gripping the cue tightly.

            It looks as if Ronnie, and Joe Davis before, him learned to relax the deltoid on contact of the tip with the cue ball enabling the elbow to drop on most of their strokes, especially when using power. It isn't neccessary though as Judd Trump plays with extreme power without dropping his elbow
            I hope this is not for me to look in to !
            "I am still endeavouring to meet someone funnier than my life" - Q. M. Sidd

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            • #36
              Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
              del watching this guy up close was the birth of the so called del-drive..
              notice from the first few shots how the elbow pushes or drives the cue through, making it seam effortless. this is the poetry that is often spoken about by the commentators.
              Sorry I don't see the elbow drive anything, ( in the first few shots)I see it staying still, and acting as a pivot for the forearm which is totally relaxed so the cue comes through at a lovely pace all the way, sorry if I'm being stupid sometimes I can't see the bleedin obvious lol.
              This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
              https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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              • #37
                yeah i wouldn't expect that from a darts player. no but it looks subtle. the best darts players do the same thing, but in reverse.

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                • #38
                  Lol, I wasn't good enough at darts either, but I do know what you mean dart wise the elbow does drive the forearm and it comes up as the hand goes forward to the target, the hand doesn't come down to the elbow, so is it getting that pivot from the elbow and not using the hand to drive the cue? The hand should be kind of neutral.
                  This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                  https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                  • #39
                    Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                    Lol, I wasn't good enough at darts either
                    well i remember you saying a few times that you were a good level darts player so

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