cue ball and object ball players

[cyberheater]

although by looking at the cue ball maybe that is why his position was so good. Always striking where he wanted on the white?

I'm going to try it tomorrow but normally it's fatal if I take my eye of the object ball when I strike.

[CoachGavin]

cue ball and object ball players

no harm in trying something new. we are always learning new skills.

[tedisbill]

I'm going to try it tomorrow but normally it's fatal if I take my eye of the object ball when I strike.

I wouldn't bother pratting about. Just turn up for practice and play properly.

[thelongbomber]

This is exactly that I have been trying to say on the forum all along. I'm already convinced that you DON'T have to look at the OB all the time. In fact, I'm working on a system right now that will provide guidance for when to look at the CB vs the OB. There are specific cases when you can look at the ghost ball and it will be more beneficial in potting.

One thing that needs to be understood is that whenever a player is looking at the object ball, what they really SHOULD be looking at is the GHOST ball. And what is the GHOST BALL? Well, it's the CUE BALL at some future point in time. So actually, technically speaking the debate is really about whether to look at the CUE BALL at the present moment, or look at the CUE BALL (read ghost ball), at some FUTURE moment in time.

Assuming you agree with my presumption, then if you just focus on the CUE ball path, pace, and strike point, and feather while looking at the path the cue ball will travel and how it will strike the object ball, then you will have a complete stroke. In certain situations, like blind pockets or where the ghost ball position isn't clear to you, you can look at the object ball path and final destination (pocket) more. This fully explains why Hendry looks at the pocket. He is very CB focused - as mentioned - and then looks at the pocket on occasion.

The ONLY ball you actually control is the CUE BALL. The OB is only under control when the CB is under control. If you send the CB where it needs to go, the OB will go where it needs to go.

[j6uk]

I wouldn't bother pratting about. Just turn up for practice and play properly.

very sound advise from a player

[DeanH]

cue ball and object ball players

not sure about all that has been said with this subject but my thoughts are what my driving instructor told me (all those years ago) "look as far down the road as you can and you will drive to the road; you don't drive watching the steering wheel"

[Stupree]

I wouldn't bother pratting about. Just turn up for practice and play properly.

I like this and I did this for years and could not and still can't tell you what I was looking at then. I know that I look at the OB now and it took some work for me to do this as it felt uncomfortable so I think I must have been looking at the CB. I also know that I am not playing anywhere near as well as I used to but that could be for a few reasons

[Stupree]

not sure about all that has been said with this subject but my thoughts are what my driving instructor told me (all those years ago) "look as far down the road as you can and you will drive to the road; you don't drive watching the steering wheel"

My instructor was an acquaintance that taught the rules of the road by day and was on the doors of a local club at night. His advice about what I should be looking at was usually 'did you see that bit of skirt?'

[DeanH]

cue ball and object ball players

all I do is when going down on the shot I am keeping my eye on the OB. Then quickly check I am going to hit the CB where I want (to get the reaction of the CB for the position I want) then back to the OB. Then deliver the cue

[DeanH]

not sure about all that has been said with this subject but my thoughts are what my driving instructor told me (all those years ago) "look as far down the road as you can and you will drive to the road; you don't drive watching the steering wheel"

My instructor was an acquaintance that taught the rules of the road by day and was on the doors of a local club at night. His advice about what I should be looking at was usually 'did you see that bit of skirt?'

brill
sounds like my instructor as well but with the extra bit "KEEP LOOKING AT THE ROAD WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT SKIRT!"

[CoachGavin]

cue ball and object ball players

in the analogy of the driving instructor though the steering wheel would be the cue. in the same way you aim the car along the road you aim the cue at the White. From the thoughts on here and from my experiences with good players it seems to be something that is different for everyone.

[CoachGavin]

cue ball and object ball players

im guessing j6uk that your not convinced lol

[itsnoteasy]

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Another example. See Mark Williams against Selby at the 13:10 mark (and the replay at 13:35) in this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8g6vzuozSc

I personally look at the CB too and I find it not very intuitive to look at the OB. Whenever I try to focus on the OB it messes up my cue action. I guess it is just how I got used to play.

This is a screen shot of the moment Mark Williams strikes the cue ball, eyes are clearly on the object ball.

[itsnoteasy]

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This is Stephen Hendry right at the moment of strike, eyes on object ball.

[itsnoteasy]

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This is John Higgins( don't know why I'm putting the names you all know who they are) from the example Cyberheater gave on the other thread , this is a split second before the strike but the cue is on the way forward, now it's a still it's clear he's focused on the object ball.