cue ball and object ball players

[Inoffthered]

I respect your opinion Steve, you talk more sense than most on here... But I assure you, there are decent players who look at the cue ball. I think it's wrong that they're even aware of it, but they are out there.

I'm surprised these players get into that habit. I find it very difficult and 'forced' for me to look at the cue ball on the strike. As soon as I begin my final backswing, my eyes HAVE to look at the point of contact on either the object ball or cushion [navigating a snooker]. But yeah, like you say pottr.. these players are out there.

[itsnoteasy]

It's reasonable to assume there are players that look at the cue ball, as with most things there are exceptions to the rules, but it's not the correct way of doing things, so if someone wants to improve surely you would tell them the correct method, not the exception.
I am not as convinced as Vmax that it's the only, or most important thing you have to do, as I believe if you don't get online ,stay still ,and cue straight it doesn't matter where you are looking you won't pot anything, but I do agree you have to be looking at the ob to help bring everything together.

[pottr]

If someone wants to improve... Tell them not to worry about it and work on their stance, grip, bridge and delivery...

The rest is practice.

[Ramon]

There goes VMAX picking on me.... I can take it. I have been at the range working on my golf game the last few days and I have come to realize that I was told with my arm I would never be a very good golfer but I proved everyone wrong. Weak grip and all hunched over with my crooked arm but at 50 I can still move the driver out 300 yards with a nice draw all because I do the rest the mechanics correct. So no more excuses, yes I look totally cramped up over the Snooker table with my bridge hand half off the table and could probably get away with about a 50" cue but if I get the rest of the mechanics correct such as looking at the OB, staying down on the shot and accelerating through the cue ball I will master this game as I am determined to.

hahahaha, that's a good one !!!!!!. Better Vmax than me. This guy knows what he's talking about. I've never seen anyone like you Les.!! So determined to improve his game.
I hope you do'nt mind me saying this. But my compliments. If I miss a pot, I laugh about it. I drink a beer, and I forget about it. To be honest with you, I think I need more discipline. Anyway, I'm trying to enjoy the game.
I hope you enjoy your game too.

[lesedwards]

hahahaha, that's a good one !!!!!!. Better Vmax than me. This guy knows what he's talking about. I've never seen anyone like you Les.!! So determined to improve his game.
I hope you do'nt mind me saying this. But my compliments. If I miss a pot, I laugh about it. I drink a beer, and I forget about it. To be honest with you, I think I need more discipline. Anyway, I'm trying to enjoy the game.
I hope you enjoy your game too.

Thanks I will try, I guess it is in my blood to master or forget it. This is the first thing I have found that I am hooked on but cannot master but I will. I started playing Drums when I was 4 and by the time I hit high school I was teaching drums at the local music store. You already no my golf story, I was awarded best fastball picture by the time I hit grade 8. I really only enjoy things that I can master...LOL THIS SO CALLED GAME OF SNOOKER IS DETERMINED TO BREAK ME BUT I WONT LET IT. I WILL WIN.

[CoachGavin]

cue ball and object ball players

I applaud you lesedwards. embrace the challenge.

[alabadi]

I've never seen anyone like you Les.!! So determined to improve his game.
I hope you do'nt mind me saying this. But my compliments. If I miss a pot, I laugh about it. I drink a beer, and I forget about it. To be honest with you, I think I need more discipline. Anyway, I'm trying to enjoy the game.
I hope you enjoy your game too.

i think there are lots of people as determined as Les, but they don't publicly announce it on a daily bases. i for one am determined to be a player of high standard one day .

maybe at my age which is similar to Les's improvements will be slow, nevertheless with all the determination and the will to learn and put in the hard work one day i will be reporting here to my success rather than my failures which i intend to keep to myself

[lesedwards]

[QUOTE=alabadi;787976]i think there are lots of people as determined as Les, but they don't publicly announce it on a daily bases. i for one am determined to be a player of high standard one day .

maybe at my age which is similar to Les's improvements will be slow, nevertheless with all the determination and the will to learn and put in the hard work one day i will be reporting here to my success rather than my failures which i intend to keep to myself[/

Maybe we need to set routines between us and have competitions on who can complete them first....something like a practice partner but not on the same table. Set your video camera up each time we practice to prove you have completed the routine.

[j6uk]

I really only enjoy things that I can master...LOL THIS SO CALLED GAME OF SNOOKER IS DETERMINED TO BREAK ME BUT I WONT LET IT. I WILL WIN.

the words of a broken man

[Ramon]

i think there are lots of people as determined as Les, but they don't publicly announce it on a daily bases. i for one am determined to be a player of high standard one day .

maybe at my age which is similar to Les's improvements will be slow, nevertheless with all the determination and the will to learn and put in the hard work one day i will be reporting here to my success rather than my failures which i intend to keep to myself

A Great player is not someone who just used to win. but someone who can also get on with his lost and mistakes in the game and learn from them. determination is one thing, frustration is another thing. these two are not the same. I hope you improved your game to The level as you want it .And especially enjoy your game. btw, I talked about Les, but it was not my intention to offend you., or other members .sorry for the misunderstanding.

[j6uk]

with all the frustrations and disappointments that come hand and glove its important that you enjoy the journey with playing this 'cruel game'

[vmax4steve]

with all the frustrations and disappointments that come hand and glove its important that you enjoy the journey with playing this 'cruel game'

I think Les' problem is that his smashed arm has made him all the more determined to prove to everyone else around him that he is not a cripple and can do anything that an able bodied person can do.

That sort of mindset can be very overpowering and when taken to extremes you can end up like Oscar Pistorius when that thinly veiled rage at the rest of the world comes out from it's hiding place behind the mask of ambition.

Some things can beat you, whether able bodied or not and I'm afraid that Les has chosen the most difficult and precise game of all, a game that cannot be beaten.

[golferson123]

lets face it,some things your just not good at I think what les needs is a dose of realism.all this talk of "i will master it" sounds rather hollow.name me anyone you think has mastered this game.

[j6uk]

I think Les' problem is that his smashed arm has made him all the more determined to prove to everyone else around him that he is not a cripple and can do anything that an able bodied person can do.

That sort of mindset can be very overpowering and when taken to extremes you can end up like Oscar Pistorius when that thinly veiled rage at the rest of the world comes out from it's hiding place behind the mask of ambition.

i think your on to something

[j6uk]

lets face it,some things your just not good at I think what les needs is a dose of realism.all this talk of "i will master it" sounds rather hollow.name me anyone you think has mastered this game.

exactly! and i will win!! oh yeah?! the only thing you can do is be nice to it, with plenty of tlc, like taking care of all the apparatus: table, cue, technique and your head.. then this game might give you a few nice breaks