knocking a break in with an i phone one yer head and a lump o wood worth 20 quid?

[Byrom]

Just thought this was worth a view - soooo many people seem to over think it on here -

Be lots of these things on here when google glass comes out - what do you think - useful?

[jrc750]

I skipped a fair bit as all very similar, but got to be one of the most useful videos you can watch, as you get to see where to hit the cue ball

[j6uk]

might help someone but it needs editing, all that walking around the table feels dizzy and unwatchable.

[bolton-cueman]

very useful indeed!

[Terry Davidson]

Nic Barrow also put one of these things up although he used a sports camera.

Byrom...in yours I did notice a bit (just a touch) of head movement during the delivery but otherwise this is a very good way to show a student what exactly is going on.

I have a GoPro HD camera now and I intend to make one of these up too and try and load it up to youtube. These camera will also do 120 frames per second so they are very useful in looking at what the grip is doing too

Terry

[itsnoteasy]

Jeez Terry that's harsh, I think he stays very still. It would be much better with a ball picker then you wouldn't get all the walking round the table stuff.

[cyberheater]

Yes. I've seen this before. A cracking vid. Thanks for posting Byrom.

He seems to put a hint of right hand side on a lot of his shots. Still manages to pot them though.

[tedisbill]

Yes. I've seen this before. A cracking vid. Thanks for posting Byrom.

He seems to put a hint of right hand side on a lot of his shots. Still manages to pot them though.

From the few shots I watched at the beginning, he wanted the right hand side on all those shots.

[itsnoteasy]

This fella plays with his bridge arm off the table. Just thought I'd mention it.

[cyberheater]

From the few shots I watched at the beginning, he wanted the right hand side on all those shots.

There are quite a few shots he plays later on that doesn't use the cushion yet he still puts side on the white. I thought from a theoretical point of view that there was no point in doing that.

[Byrom]

There are quite a few shots he plays later on that doesn't use the cushion yet he still puts side on the white. I thought from a theoretical point of view that there was no point in doing that.

Yes you can hit with bits of side with stun and aid your positional play - if you are straight and stun into it a bit with left the ball will stun off fractionally to your right and visa versa - I sometimes use bits of side to aid my line - angle required - for the next shot that I need.

Note - best to eliminate the use of side they say - i agree specifically at any distance but close in it does come into the game and fractions often help keep you going say if you need to make a slight angle to keep your break going normally and obviously use of side is more effective using a cushion to widen or narrow the angle of deflection with the white and use of side is more effective with cushions because the white is in contact with them longer but I think it is possible to move a white a fraction one way or the other with stun and a bit of side if straight if you hit it hard-ish. It does not react much as the cue ball only hits a small spot on the object ball therefore they are not in contact to transfer any side for long but sometimes a fraction is all you need - you can do the same shot with a bit of a stun run through too - I would rather do this shot than have to pinch a bit of the pocket.

[cyberheater]

Yes you can hit with bits of side with stun and aid your positional play - if you are straight and stun into it a bit with left the ball will stun off fractionally to your right and visa versa - I sometimes use bits of side to aid my line - angle required - for the next shot that I need.

If you have a dead straight shot on the blue into the middle bag and put tons of side on the white. If you hit the white absolutely straight, the white will not move off the line at all or so I understand it. I thought that side only works when the white hits a cushion. Am I wrong?

[Byrom]

On a dead straight shot direct in line blue its easier to pinch a bit of the pocket so the shot there is that perhaps but -

Yes I have heard some people - including some knowledgeable coaches say that side does not transfer until it hits a cushion - I don't know the scientific workings of it myself but I know I can create a fraction of an angle by stuning hard with a touch of side and I do use a similar shot to work the angle sometimes on a stun shot or stun run to be more precise - to hold the white for the next shot and narrow or widen the angle slightly for the next shot - so I don't agree with this view.

Excuse me now whilst I get my ear muffs - waiting to be shot down by all the snooker experts

[tedisbill]

I was going to answer but you already have Byrom.

Little flicks of side are used by loads of players when in the balls, without using cushions. Some players also just prefer to pot balls with a trace of side anyway.

Yes, I know, side should be avoided at all costs so we're told.

Also, your blue example Cyber: Also what happens with side, is the white will throw off slightly before it comes back, and this can help generate an angle that isn't really there.

So in my attached picture, the player is potting a dead straight blue with right hand side. You can see that I've exaggerated it, but the white actually ends up coming at the blue from an angle.

snookerpic.jpg

[itsnoteasy]

Can the white having a bounce on a very hard stun shot throw it to a different angle? I'm not sure if he's playing side on a lot of those shots they don't seem to come off the cushions right for a shot with side on it(apart from the obvious ones) I think the camera angle is just slightly off making it look like he's not centre striking.