knocking a break in with an i phone one yer head and a lump o wood worth 20 quid?

[j6uk]

wheres my cruches

[Wayne G]

I (and others) have asked many a time for J6 to do a quick video of him performing shots he tells everyone else to do..... as far as I know none have been forthcoming.

I think terry is justified in asking that J6 finally 'puts up'.

So J6UK... put us all out of our misery and show us the shots...

Would love to see some J6 action.

[Terry Davidson]

unlike me, your ego is such that you don't care and ain't been following a word of what ive said in the last 18 months of me posting because its all about master terry and his disco ball apron

What the hell is a 'disco ball apron'? Is that some London expression?

The reason I try and ignore you as much as possible is because I consider the source. Also I've never been accused of having a big ego by anyone else and from what I've seen a lot of the really good snooker players do have big egos, probably deservedly so too.

Put up please and thank you.

Terry

[thelongbomber]

Would love to see some J6 action.

J6UK has every right to his anonymity and doesn't have to present himself here. Once his identity is revealed, he can't go back into hiding. So let's just accept his intolerance, arrogance, harassment of other teachers, and occasional misbehavior as rather ordinary and normal. J6 seems to like playing the devil's advocate so let him. I for one, don't like the harassment, but I also know enough to backup my methodology - as crazy as it might be. If J6 feels it necessary to occasionally police and point out things, let him so that we can have a healthy dialogue and come to a useful conclusion. Every forum needs someone like J6 to keep things straight and prevent newbies from being misled by wrong advice, so I think J6 is fair in calling things out - but maybe not so loudly eh?

But in Terry's defense, J6, if you really are as skilled as you claim (I haven't followed your posts long enough to say you are), then you must admit that Terry played the shot that HE felt was right at that moment in time. It's nearly impossible to judge the shot unless you were actually there playing on the table, under the same conditions. If you really are a skilled player, you should also understand the pressures of match play. Poo happens and we don't play the right shot. Temperament is hard to teach - life experience is usually the biggest contributing factor.

Personally, I would like to at least see your name, and a few videos showing your skill as that has come into some doubt now. If you don't want to post it publicly, send me a PM. I won't publish it.

[Giggity1984]

Terry played the shot that HE felt was right at that moment in time. It's nearly impossible to judge the shot unless you were actually there playing on the table, under the same conditions. If you really are a skilled player, you should also understand the pressures of match play.

Nailed it.

[itsnoteasy]

As much as he frustrates me sometimes, I think J6 can play and does say some very very good things on this forum, some of the time I haven't got what he's saying because my understanding of the game isn't at the level it needed to be and at other times I just haven't got a clue what he's on about lol, but for the former, I have noticed as my game improved what he has said has clicked with me and I get it(well most of it).
Like LB ,and I said this on another thread ,I think everyone is entitled to what ever privacy they want, we are all different and that's a good thing, would I like to know who he is, sure ,it's human nature but do I feel I have a right to know?, not in a million years, and let's face it good information is good information , so even if J6cant play it doesn't make what he says wrong or if he pulls you up about something he doesn't agree with it doesn't make his opinion any less valid.I for one like being pulled up if I type a load of nonsense ,yes he could be a bit more subtle to say the least, but at least I learn what I'm doing wrong and more importantly I haven't passed on my wrong information to someone else, we may have an argument about it and the toys come out the pram, then two months down the line I will be practicing and bingo! I will get it and he will be proven right, the bugger. It is different for me I will admit as I am learning, and I can understand the clashes between the people on here who can play but have opposite opinions on things, and sometimes it gets a bit heated, but a bit of passion shows it means something ,as long as you are arguing the point and not getting personal,( which I think it does ,well I know it does it's bleedin obvious) it's all good.

[vmax4steve]

I'm absolutely certain there are a number of members on here who see you posting all your help who would like to see and understand how you got the experience to be coaching at all. My statement still stands...'put up or shut up please and thank you

Terry

From the bloke who said nrage was entitled to give out coaching advice on this forum despite having a high break of 26. Never told him to put up or shut up but then nrage did nothing but paraphrase Terry having been coached by him, so you can see how it seems to be all about agreeing with Terry and his many certificates or just being wrong.
J6 has every right to disagree and every right to keep his anonymity, as do I and everyone else who posts on the internet.

[thelongbomber]

I have noticed as my game improved what he has said has clicked with me and I get it(well most of it).

That's great.

If J6 cant play it doesn't make what he says wrong

No offense intended, but that makes no sense.

OK look. You stated in an earlier post that you were a 50 break player. Right so must realize that you simply cannot understand what a regular 80 break, or pro thinks about. MORE IMPORTANTLY, you can't even imagine it. You really do have to understand this about snooker. It's like you travel to a foreign country and try to get directions from someone else that is ALSO lost. Not logical. See the thing is about snooker, we simply cannot grasp much more than whats just ahead of us. That's how we progress and learn in this game. We make slow and gradual improvements by learning from someone better than us. We play better players and then befriend them and learn. If we are lucky, we find an experienced coach that has been there and done it. If we are lucky, we get into competition, and watch our opponent do things better. We learn from those better than us.

You can't learn how to build a house from someone trying to build a tent. You learn from someone already building fancy houses. So saying that if a person CANT play, they can tell another person HOW to play really isn't right. At least for me anyways.

At this point, we simply don't have proof - apart from your claim that he does know what he is saying - that j6 actually can lead you in the right direction. He might be a 60 or 70 break average player and so to you, he looks like a teacher. But to a century player (NO, I'm not claiming to be, just saying), J6 isn't always right.

[pottr]

Just chuck a poxy video up...

I've lobbed a couple up and in one of them I lose the white every other shot...

[Neil Taperell]

I know who he is ...................and he can play :snooker:

[pottr]

Is he Keyser Söze?

[Terry Davidson]

From the bloke who said nrage was entitled to give out coaching advice on this forum despite having a high break of 26. Never told him to put up or shut up but then nrage did nothing but paraphrase Terry having been coached by him, so you can see how it seems to be all about agreeing with Terry and his many certificates or just being wrong.
J6 has every right to disagree and every right to keep his anonymity, as do I and everyone else who posts on the internet.

It's not all about agreeing with me, hell I've even agreed with you and j6 on occasion but it seems to me if I disagree with you then you get upset even though you would have to admit some of your coaching theories do go against the practices commonly taught. However, there's lots of room for different ideas and they sometimes keep the rest of us on our toes, even if only to try them out and disregard them.

I worked hard to get my certificates and coincidentally learned a lot of things about snooker I didn't know before.

Terry

[Stupree]

I know who he is ...................and he can play :snooker:

Well a testimony from a respected member should be enough for us all. I am still getting to know the man behind the mystery that is J6UK - I agree he can play and shows he knows the table and most importantly shows he loves this game :snooker:

Is he Keyser Söze?

He most certainly is..

"Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone."

[itsnoteasy]

That's great.



No offense intended, but that makes no sense.

OK look. You stated in an earlier post that you were a 50 break player. Right so must realize that you simply cannot understand what a regular 80 break, or pro thinks about. MORE IMPORTANTLY, you can't even imagine it. You really do have to understand this about snooker. It's like you travel to a foreign country and try to get directions from someone else that is ALSO lost. Not logical. See the thing is about snooker, we simply cannot grasp much more than whats just ahead of us. That's how we progress and learn in this game. We make slow and gradual improvements by learning from someone better than us. We play better players and then befriend them and learn. If we are lucky, we find an experienced coach that has been there and done it. If we are lucky, we get into competition, and watch our opponent do things better. We learn from those better than us.

You can't learn how to build a house from someone trying to build a tent. You learn from someone already building fancy houses. So saying that if a person CANT play, they can tell another person HOW to play really isn't right. At least for me anyways.

At this point, we simply don't have proof - apart from your claim that he does know what he is saying - that j6 actually can lead you in the right direction. He might be a 60 or 70 break average player and so to you, he looks like a teacher. But to a century player (NO, I'm not claiming to be, just saying), J6 isn't always right.

There are loads of century makers on here ,I've not seen one of them pull him up about his advice, his attitude yes, but not what he says about the game( appart from that pink shot he questioned Terry on), have you?i have had arguments with him about things and had other coaches come on and tell me he's right, which is really annoying lol.
When I say it doesn't make what he says wrong, I will try and put it another way, if I told someone don't grip too hard, that's not wrong advice, but I'm not a pro, on another thread I explained a stun shot to a lad, Terry agreed, so that wasn't wrong, but I'm not a century maker, so what I'm trying to say is if his advice is right, it's right, that's all there is to it, so it doesn't matter if he (or anyone else for that matter) gives advice as long as it's correct.
Now I don't know if you mean all his advice is wrong, and if you are saying that,that's a different story, and we can agree to disagree , but I will say, not everyone will think someone it right all the time, that's life, and I'm not taking any sides here, as Terry knows I appreciate all the help he gives us, and god knows J6 knows what I think of him as we have argued about it enough, and I think if he just explained things better everyone would be happier(and gave Terry a break).i hope that explains what I meant a bit better, and here is some of the advice J6 has given that I have found valuable
Number one by a long shot , it starts with the feet, not position of the feet but balance and being still, very important, coupled with hit from the elbow, I had never heard this expression before, and have questioned him about it loads of times, but he's right, and it is hard to explain but when you do it you will know. His table grid is great, once I understood it, coupled with him giving advice on what shots to play,all these have helped me, just one quick one, the shot from brown to blue was very hit and miss for me, he told me how to play it, and even if I'm not in the right position I have that shot as a reference point now and can easily adjust, whereas before every shot was played as an individual if you know what I mean. His advice that recognising the half ball pot etc(which I struggle with) is a must, is very sound advice, as again this gives you a great reference point, it's not the fact that a shot has to be bang on a half ball or quarter ball, it's the fact of being able to recognise it, you have that automatic reference point again.
So for me(and I can only talk for me) he has helped, he has also infuriated me no end lol, but hey I'm a big boy ,I can say my bit he says his and we move on, happy days , till the next time lol.

[Neil Taperell]

Great post.......exactly what an Internet Forum is all about............Opinions but don't get personal .