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Correct......imoOriginally Posted by thunder66 View Posthaha, thank you Rimmer! Did miss one red though, and the long red was half a fluke :P. Like I said, I'm much better than usual today
Wish I could do 40-50 sometime soon.
And yes itsnoteasy, my head movement is also always a problem, I think it has something to do with my grip and feathering combined.This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8Comment
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To answer a couple of your questions. The 4th leg means when you shoot the spots (provided the table is fairly level) the cueball should be within one ball's width from the brown spot on the 4th length of the table. Just 2 lengths doesn't require any power and will not show up any flaws in your striking.
Cue on chest is not the correct mental picture as it should be 'chest on cue' which means to force the chest down to the cue and NOT to pull the cue into the chest once you are down. To keep the cue on the same plane the curl of the fingers does exert a very small amount of upward pressure and the trick is to keep the upper body very still and in fact do not breathe in or out while your cue is moving, i.e. - from the address position, through the feathers, backswing and delivery.
It is difficult to keep the cue on the same plane (meaning the butt does not rise and fall at all, but I notice yours does a bit and that is because your grip is still a bit tight and at the end of a longer backswing the elbow has to drop a bit at the very end of the backswing. At the start of the delivery the elbow returns to it's highest point quickly and then the elbow may drop again at the end of the delivery although there really is not reason it has to but some players will do this naturally as it's a certain way to properly complete the delivery and to also keep the cue on the same plane.
It's also very important to stop everything at the end of the delivery and stay still for 1-2 seconds and observe the object ball with only your eyes (do not move the body at all).
I also noticed what someone said above and that is you head is rising on the final backswing. Work on cueing slowly along the baulkline with no balls and concentrate on not dropping the elbow at all at the end of the delivery (it will still have to drop a bit to keep the cue on the same plane though). With this exercise move the cue very slowly and do a full long backswing and then a full delivery and you can even watch the tip of the cue during this to ensure it dows not go down on the backswing (meaning the butt has risen). If the tip does go down it will mean you are 'scooping' the cue when you deliver and there is no guarantee you will hit the cueball at the height you intended (so on a deep screw shot you will hit the cueball a little higher than you intended and on a shot with top spin you may even mis-cue).
Banging the back of the grip hand into the chest is not really a bad thing as it means you accelerated through and BEYOND the cueball which is something you should always try to achieve, even on low power shots. Just don't do it so forcefully that you bruise your chest, but keep the acceleration going.
TerryTerry Davidson
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Well you learn something new every day, I didn't know most of this.This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8Comment
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Did miss one red though, and the long red was half a fluke :P
Nothing flukey about that red mate. That was a beauty.Comment
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Please keep in mind that you are a better player than me and I'm only guessing. I'm sure the good players on here will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it comes down to what j6uk would call taking the shot from the elbow. Watch videos of Shaun Murphy, but PLEASE DO NOT go down that fatal road and think you have to introduce an elbow drop into your technique.Originally Posted by thunder66 View PostComment
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rimmer you remember when i mentioned you asking one of the decent players where you play to watch you take a few shots,just wondered if you did in the end?Originally Posted by rimmer10 View PostComment
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Unfortunately there aren't any real good players, no disrespect to anyone. The best player in there is my mate who I go with every week. He knocks in the odd 30 or 40 and reckons he did 80's in his youth. Unfortunately he can't see anything wrong apart from having a tendency to hitting them too hard sometimes and there is not much I can pick up from him because he has a very unconventional technique. A bit like a European 3 cushion player, very side on with the chin about 6 inches off the cue but with a very good eye for a pot. Forgot to mention, where I'm playing is my local Conservative Club in Poole and not a Snooker Club.Originally Posted by Leo View PostComment
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Rimmer i know you mean well but i fail to see why you can state that elbow drop is fatal do you possess the knowledge to state this or are you repeating others! Elbow drop occures after contact and enables followthrough i agree that if it happens before then it becomes a shove and is incorrect. I dont usually refer to other players but please observe ronnies followthrough and tell me does he drop his elbow after contact?Originally Posted by rimmer10 View PostComment
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Yes, ROS does drop his elbow on a lot of pots, especially with power however you should also note Judd Trump hardly ever drops his elbow. As you said, dropping the elbow before the strike is a serious problem for those who want to improve but unfortunately there are a lot of players who do that and if they are trying to improve they have to stop delivering with the shoulder muscle and use purely the elbow as a hinge.Originally Posted by golferson123 View Post
The elbow will drop naturally well after the strike when a player learns to keep the cue on the same plane throughout the stroke and that occurs both during a longer backswing and also on every delivery where a little power is used.
TerryTerry Davidson
IBSF Master Coach & ExaminerComment
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Yes terry i agree. My point was people reposting others advice without proper understanding. there are things i agree with and things i disagree with but if you look at the bigger picture there are a multitude of ways of delivering the cue and the evidence of that is the different strokes on showComment
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on another note terry did you get a two piece cue you were after?Comment
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thunder66, how much are you practising? Your technique is far better than players I know who knock in 70s and 80s. I would leave your technique alone apart from perhaps trying to open your hand more as you pull the cue back. To practice this try pulling the tip back to the bridge hand thumb without feeling like you are restricting the movement. The cue needs to remain on the same plane as you pull the cue back. At the moment your head slightly lifts and your cue butt rises so try and bring it back straighter and on the cue plane. Apart from this just practice your breakbuilding. Do routines such as setting up 3 reds and all the colours and trying to clear for a 50+ break. If you miss you must start again. I noticed when you missed on the video you carried on. Really I would prefer that you start the practice again. My view is that improving your technique will improve your game by a black or two whereas choosing different shots and improving your touch around the pink and black will soon get you knocking in 50s. Practice potting pinks, blacks and clearing the colours. Also do line ups but try them using 3-5 reds so that you have a realistic chance to clear the table. As you get better add more reds. Like I say I think working on your technique is not the way to go at the moment when you can build up your game much quicker. Good luck!coaching is not just for the pros
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