Should J6 post a video up to prove he's as good as he says Poll..

[tedisbill]

I think you have to be a top player to coach, (not on about showing basics, but to take someone right through to a very good standard)you can explain something to someone and even show them what you have read in a book, but what do you do if they can't do it?,because you haven't gone through this you won't have that understanding of the situation so it must make it harder to help correct mistakes, that's if you can even spot them.
Textbooks can teach you a lot, but experience and understanding is that extra thing that a top player will have over that kind of coach, of course that's all things being equal and they are both as good as getting their points across. At the end of the day though it's up to the pupil, if they put the work in the coaching will help, if they don't all the coaching in the world won't.

Absolutely. Agree with everything here.

[tedisbill]

sorry but your a bit floppy here on this thread.. but now your finally right in saying most/all good coaches have been good players. and we're not talking about people who've made a handful of little tons.

Yep. This is exactly the point as well. We're not talking about your regular club player here that happens to have made a ton. We're talking about a player that's got that extra class.

[golferson123]

talking of class anyone remember jonathon birch or joe o boye

[j6uk]

talking of class anyone remember jonathon birch or joe o boye

yes but never met them

[golferson123]

pure class oozed it even missing balls looked the part, also stefan mazrosis, got a little club in Leicester now, won a few bob on him at pontins

[md5299]

Yes had a week with him at palmers green in 1980 and he also came down to us for 5 days,he really knew his stuff on technique.he was more of a billiard player,we had a game for an hour one day and he knocked in a 174.he wanted me to do my coaching course and in hindsight i wish i did although i did coach a lot of local players that went on to win county and area trophies.the trouble is we are on the wings of the world down here at lands end.getting back to the playing part i think you definitly have to have some natural ability and hunger to improve.a good coach can only look at players individualy as one size does not fit all,in our county league we had a 6ft 8ins player and a 4ft 11ins player and they were not text book by any means but were very good players.i think a lot of it is hard work and trial and error and finding what works best for you which might not work for others,after the game the king and the pawns go back into the same box.if you're down this way give us a shout.j6uk knows his stuff.md

you lucky lucky git md lol, if you can be bothered i would love to hear about the time you spent with him, i bought his video , after being shown a clip on youtube that was put up on here and loved the way he set about things, i would definitely have gone and got some coaching from him if i played back then.

[md5299]

Have replied but didn't do it with quote,you should find it though.md.

you lucky lucky git md lol, if you can be bothered i would love to hear about the time you spent with him, i bought his video , after being shown a clip on youtube that was put up on here and loved the way he set about things, i would definitely have gone and got some coaching from him if i played back then.

[md5299]

yep hit the top jaw and you're in your seat J,SOMETHING YOU LEARN QUICK AND IT STICKS,DONE THAT 5 TIMES ON 99,THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT MAKES YOU IMPROVE YOUR GAME,MISSING.

i remember jack saying if your low on the black hit it thicker and high hit it thinner, so basically your more certain to pot the black if you aim for the far jaw. just one of many little gems that stuck

[Neil Taperell]

Yep. This is exactly the point as well. We're not talking about your regular club player here that happens to have made a ton. We're talking about a player that's got that extra class.

Alan Bell was regarded as a decent coach , but don't believe that he was a top player .

Same as the golf coach , David Leadbetter . Great coach but not a top golfer .

[golferson123]

Should J6 post a video up to prove he's as good as he says Poll..

leadbetter was a very good golfer

[j6uk]

leadbetters were good snooker players too..
as for alan he was/is a very nice player, did wonders for jimmy and was very good with me and my game. bell had all the moves and stopped me from hitting the ball too hard

[Neil Taperell]

Meet him once when he was coaching a mate of mine.........might need him to sort out my game . Got to play a league match in a couple of weeks and not played for 3 months !!!!!

[Neil Taperell]

Not according to Wikipedia......had little success as a golfer . Is what they say .

What i meant by top .....was a multiple winner of events .

[golferson123]

Should J6 post a video up to prove he's as good as he says Poll..

now why would a multiple winner of events wish to teach? golf teachers teach you how to hit the ball if you wish to learn how to win look in the mirror

[Neil Taperell]

But the thread was saying that you need to be a top player to teach ......i was using David Leadbetter as an example that this is not the case . Obviously a far better golfer than me and probably a far better snooker player as well