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  • #91
    Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
    Arrogance? It sounds like it is you who is arrogant to me. You are saying 'snooker is the harder game and no pool player can play it'. I am saying they are two different games and their champions deserve equal respect.
    I believe you said earlier that snooker is easier. I never said anything of the sort.

    One thing you can't dispute is that snooker players male and female have gone over to pool and achieved. Never the other way.

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    • #92
      Originally Posted by damienlch View Post
      I look at it this way...

      The prize money for professional snooker tournaments are usually substantially higher than that of American pool, no?

      These guys play for their living and I'd expect them to go where there is money to be made.

      However, I only know of snooker players joining the American pool circuit and never the other way round, except for Alex Pagulayan. (Didn't fare too badly but did not exactly set the world on fire. Nevertheless kudos to him, being his first attempt.)

      Speaks volume about which is the tougher discipline, doesn't it?

      We may never know if ROS can be better at pool than SVB or SVB at snooker but imo, snooker is a much more difficult game.
      That in itself is no indication of which is the tougher discipline. In reality, champion snooker players aren 't going to become champion pool players EVERY BIT as much as champion pool players are not going to become champion snooker players. This is a two way street. Otherwise, the likes of stuart pettman, former top 16 snooker player turned pool player, would be bashing everyone up on the pool table, and he's not. The truth is, he's AS COMPETENT on the pool table as he is on the snooker table, that is, very, very good, just not world class.
      Last edited by Hello, Mr Big Shot; 26 December 2014, 06:56 PM.

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      • #93
        Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
        Whilst he undoubtedly put the work in, how can you possibly say he's not naturally gifted?
        What is it that tells you that he is naturally gifted?

        Can you give me some other sporting parallels?
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        • #94
          Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
          I don't answer poor question or those I've already answered. Yours are both poor and repetitious. You are also making up answers to questions you're asking yourself. Either improve the quality of your questioning or keep quiet.
          You have never played snooker yet you come on a forum telling snooker players we don't have a clue about deflection - and that pool is harder than snooker and former pool world Champion Chris Melling said so - and you spent years studying it on-line so you must be right - arrogance springs to mind and I must note earlier you said a world pool champion could not be a world snooker champion - you are wrong there too - you not heard of Mark Selby in the US of A? wasting my time debating with someone with such entrenched views and perhaps you might be a bit of a troll.

          However - I think Mr Big shot - I did find a video of you yourself on you tube so here it is people - Mr Big Shot in the flesh.


          Last edited by Byrom; 26 December 2014, 06:54 PM.

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          • #95
            Originally Posted by Stupree View Post
            Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
            Whilst he undoubtedly put the work in, how can you possibly say he's not naturally gifted?
            What is it that tells you that he is naturally gifted?
            Er centuries/maximums before he was out of short trousers, perhaps?

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            • #96
              Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
              Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
              I don't answer poor question or those I've already answered. Yours are both poor and repetitious. You are also making up answers to questions you're asking yourself. Either improve the quality of your questioning or keep quiet.
              You have never played snooker yet you come on a forum telling snooker players we don't have a clue about deflection - and that pool is harder than snooker and former pool world Champion Chris Melling said so - and you spent years studying it on-line so you must be right - I think you might be a bit of a troll.

              However - I think Mr Big shot - I did find a video of you yourself on you tube so here it is people - Mr Big Shot singing.

              Again, i can't open youtube links on this site. I'm not sure whether you have reading or comprehension difficulties, or both. You certainly seem to jump to more wrong comclusions than most.

              Whatever it is, I'm sure it's terribly witty - at least in your mind.

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              • #97
                Careful - you'll get all worked up - I think you need a fag.

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                • #98
                  Just had (a pal), fire off a text to Chris Melling to ask him this...

                  His response was, 'if I said that, I must have been trollied'

                  EDIT: My mate doesn't want his name on the forum coz he runs a lot of pool tournaments and says posting opinions online is suicide

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                  • #99
                    Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post

                    Er centuries/maximums before he was out of short trousers, perhaps?
                    Perhaps he had amassed the required level of skill and mastery within a lesser period of years than most but do not assume that this was not without dedicated purposeful practise. He put in the hours.

                    Same is true with other 'naturally gifted sportspeople' Woods, Williams, Federer, Beckham, Messi, Taylor.....the list goes on.

                    Try reading Matthew Syed's Bounce or The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle
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                    • Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                      That in itself is no indication of which is the tougher discipline. In reality, champion snooker players aren 't going to become champion pool players EVERY BIT as much as champion pool players are not going to become champion snooker players. This is a two way street. Otherwise, the likes of stuart pettman, former top 16 snooker player turned pool player, would be bashing everyone up on the pool table, and he's not. The truth is, he's AS COMPETENT on the pool table as he is on the snooker table, that is, very, very good, just not world class.
                      Snooker players fare well in pool circuits, not the other way around. That to me is a fair indication of which one is tougher.
                      When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD!!

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                      • Originally Posted by damienlch View Post
                        Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post
                        That in itself is no indication of which is the tougher discipline. In reality, champion snooker players aren 't going to become champion pool players EVERY BIT as much as champion pool players are not going to become champion snooker players. This is a two way street. Otherwise, the likes of stuart pettman, former top 16 snooker player turned pool player, would be bashing everyone up on the pool table, and he's not. The truth is, he's AS COMPETENT on the pool table as he is on the snooker table, that is, very, very good, just not world class.
                        Snooker players fare well in pool circuits, not the other way around. That to me is a fair indication of which one is tougher.
                        Which snooker players?

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                        • Originally Posted by Stupree View Post
                          Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View Post

                          Er centuries/maximums before he was out of short trousers, perhaps?
                          Perhaps he had amassed the required level of skill and mastery within a lesser period of years than most but do not assume that this was not without dedicated purposeful practise. He put in the hours.

                          Same is true with other 'naturally gifted sportspeople' Woods, Williams, Federer, Beckham, Messi, Taylor.....the list goes on.

                          Try reading Matthew Syed's Bounce or The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle
                          I am well aware of the nature Vs nurture arguments when it comes to sport, but i would think if anyone comes close to providing proof either way, it's ronnie.

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                          • Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                            Just had (a pal), fire off a text to Chris Melling to ask him this...

                            His response was, 'if I said that, I must have been trollied'

                            EDIT: My mate doesn't want his name on the forum coz he runs a lot of pool tournaments and says posting opinions online is suicide
                            To be fair Chris Melling did say something like that in an interview , which I saw .
                            however i think it was in the context that it was tougher due to the higher luck element in pool, you can lose to people with less ability.

                            Thats why pool is tougher

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                            • Less of an issue in snooker.

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                              • Originally Posted by DG GIBERT View Post
                                Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                                Just had (a pal), fire off a text to Chris Melling to ask him this...

                                His response was, 'if I said that, I must have been trollied'

                                EDIT: My mate doesn't want his name on the forum coz he runs a lot of pool tournaments and says posting opinions online is suicide
                                To be fair Chris Melling did say something like that in an interview , which I saw .
                                however i think it was in the context that it was tougher due to the higher luck element in pool, you can lose to people with less ability.

                                Thats why pool is tougher
                                Correct. He still may have been trollied though lol.

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